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Old 28 September 2013, 08:41 PM
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I have just sold a car with my plate on and bought another car, I have kept all paperwork.

I have filled in v5 of the purchased car and asked to keep v5 rather than they send off.

On the v317 form I have put details of car the plate is on now (sold car - my details)
On the car its going on, do I fill in details of the owner currently it is registered to or do I put my details on even tho im not yet on the v5?

I was going to send all the docs off to nearest DVLA office

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Old 28 September 2013, 09:41 PM
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Did you not think to put the plate on retention before you sold it?

Technically, that plate is his now. Has the new owner agreed to swap plates? This will cost him money, not just on getting new plates made up, but also his insurance company will charge him to change the details of the car.

If not of this has been agreed, he is well within his rights to keep the plate.
Old 28 September 2013, 10:11 PM
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whats the point of putting it on retention when its going on another car
No issues there, plate is worthless to him anyway
Funny how some people think tho
Old 28 September 2013, 10:23 PM
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Funy how some people only think about keeping the plate *after* they sell it with their car....
Old 28 September 2013, 11:10 PM
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Plate isn't worthless to him..........he could sell it to you

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Old 28 September 2013, 11:35 PM
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Just did the same thing and discovered the dealership I sold the car to legally owned my private plate as it was on the car at the time of purchase.

Processing is currently taking 4 weeks for a simple swap.

Dealership was ok about it but the DVLA were a nightmare as they would not recognise that I had right to my own personal plate. Took 2 months to sort and learnt the hard way to put a plate on retention before selling it.

Hope you don't have the same problems as me. At no point when speaking to the DVLA (if you have to) DO NOT MENTION the car with the plate on has been sold!!
Old 28 September 2013, 11:45 PM
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think he knows if he wants to keep his legs

i'll phone dvla monday
Old 29 September 2013, 10:28 AM
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If you phone the DVLA and say you have sold it, say its sat on your drive and still in your possession or they will say they cannot talk to you as you are not the legal owner any more.

My transfer docs got lost in their system/post and I had to call them after 4 weeks of waiting (their current back log time). I foolishly told the truth and said it was in the Dealers compound awaiting the transfer and they updated their system and said they couldn't help me and for me to speak to the new owner as they had the right to my private plate.
Old 29 September 2013, 10:30 AM
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You need to start the transfer pre sale, not post. Putting on retention is designed for that scenario. I hear lots of stories of people losing plates this way chap- good luck with the hassle you will get doing this

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Old 29 September 2013, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by LeeMac
whats the point of putting it on retention when its going on another car
No issues there, plate is worthless to him anyway
Funny how some people think tho
Funny how you didn't think before you sold the car !!

The plate isn't worthless. He could sell it, or.................. Keep it as it's his legally.
Old 29 September 2013, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by LeeMac
think he knows if he wants to keep his legs
Violence. The answer to every Knuckle dragger's problem.

Should try using your brain instead of your fists. That way, you'd still have your plate.
Old 29 September 2013, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by LeeMac
think he knows if he wants to keep his legs

i'll phone dvla monday
Great, the resolution to all issues.

Sadly you need to agree with him now to transfer the plate as you have sold the car already, what I suggest you do is let the sale go through wait for the 6 weeks or so for the new V5's to be issued then ask him nicely to pull the plate off the car, put it on retention and put you are the nominees for the plate.

You can then put the plate on your car and all will be good.

Obviously you will need to pay the fees associated with the transfer (retention/assign to vechicle fees, possible change in insurance details for him etc) and possibly bung him a drink for assisting you in correcting your rather silly mistake.

It is fixable with a little time and though, all you need to do is think.

In about 6-8 weeks it will be on your car.
Old 30 September 2013, 12:42 AM
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Personalised registrations are a brilliant scam by the DVLA

You 'buy' the plate, but you don't own it.
You can't transfer it quickly and easily form the car you sold to the car you bought, because, as stated above, the ***** will refuse to deal with you regarding the car you sold, because it's not yours anymore.
Instead you can put it on retention, which means basically that you pay to take your property off your property, then pay again to fit your property to your property

As with everything else government related in this country, if you attempted to run a business to the same rules the public sector operate under, you'd end up in prison, bankrupt, or both
Old 30 September 2013, 12:55 AM
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Sticky postion amd as others have said he now owns your number plate
Hope he agrees to transfer it for you but if he realises its valuable ...we'll

He might have bigger mates then you
Old 26 October 2013, 11:32 AM
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Update.

I sent both V5s off to DVLA with new owner filled in on one.
I added a letter explaining plate change and that the car (with new owner filled in) will be sold once plate is swapped over.
All sorted.
So, no need to put on retention.

Although, by mistake they sent the new tax disc for my other car to the new owner of sold car and not got the MOT yet!

And the car I bought went back, mileage discrepancies!

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Old 27 October 2013, 05:24 PM
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So one private plate of no value lost then.

Might have been safer to ask the question before the car was sold............
Old 27 October 2013, 05:52 PM
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Someone can't read.
Old 30 October 2013, 05:37 PM
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It would have been worth your while to visit the DVLA office to ask before you sold the car. They are always very helpful.

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Old 30 October 2013, 05:59 PM
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True, always better to ask those whose job it is. I was okay though in the end, just putting that note in would have made it clear.

I wasn't (and never am) sure if I wanted to sell the car, why I left the plate on.
I only advertised it locally and got someone straight away.
Old 31 October 2013, 05:50 PM
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Guys - how long does it take to put a plate on retention?
Old 31 October 2013, 05:56 PM
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It's going to get a lot trickier once all the local DVLA are shut and everything will be by post!
Old 31 October 2013, 06:06 PM
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Which will be even trickier, once the few remaining post offices have been shut.
Old 31 October 2013, 06:17 PM
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Yes yes, but they're still open now.
So, any ideas on how quickly you can put a plate on retention?
Old 31 October 2013, 09:27 PM
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I was told by my local dvla that all they will do is check it and send it off to Swansea, so just send it to Swansea.
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Probably take 1 to 3 weeks I would think, same as a swap over
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