Bloody immigrants!
11 June 2013, 11:53 AM
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Bloody immigrants!
Have been trying to get two very large evergreens removed from my garden as last year with the wet summr they both partially fell over and my efforts to rescue them have been fruitless.
Called 4 local tree outfits. 3 didn't turn up to give an estimate and the 4th did and quoted £300 for the job including removing everything and tidying up a few other bits and pieces.
We shook hands and he duly turned up 3 days later and partially cut down one tree before leaving saying he'd be back the next day.... he never returned and didn't reply to my phone message. I didn't pay him a bean so no worries there, but I now had a wrecked tree all over the place.
In the supermarket on the weekend I saw an ad for gardening servies so called them. Geordie lad with a East European workforce. Spoke to him at 11am yesterday. He said did I mind them working in the evening? Of course not I said so after working on another job until 4:30pm yesterday they all turned up here at 5pm... 4 of them and the Geordie manging the procedure. Job done and perfect by 8:30pm. All rubbish removed ... £280!!!
The lad told me he has never been so busy and these bloody useless workshy sponging immigrants are happy to work any time. He pays them £9-£10 an hour and they are happy to work 50/60 hours a week. When he had a group of Brits working for him he said it was nothing but trouble!
This is the second time I have encountered this sort of story recently. Makes you wonder really!
Called 4 local tree outfits. 3 didn't turn up to give an estimate and the 4th did and quoted £300 for the job including removing everything and tidying up a few other bits and pieces.
We shook hands and he duly turned up 3 days later and partially cut down one tree before leaving saying he'd be back the next day.... he never returned and didn't reply to my phone message. I didn't pay him a bean so no worries there, but I now had a wrecked tree all over the place.
In the supermarket on the weekend I saw an ad for gardening servies so called them. Geordie lad with a East European workforce. Spoke to him at 11am yesterday. He said did I mind them working in the evening? Of course not I said so after working on another job until 4:30pm yesterday they all turned up here at 5pm... 4 of them and the Geordie manging the procedure. Job done and perfect by 8:30pm. All rubbish removed ... £280!!!
The lad told me he has never been so busy and these bloody useless workshy sponging immigrants are happy to work any time. He pays them £9-£10 an hour and they are happy to work 50/60 hours a week. When he had a group of Brits working for him he said it was nothing but trouble!
This is the second time I have encountered this sort of story recently. Makes you wonder really!
11 June 2013, 12:03 PM
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Mmmmmm wonder how much tax they’re paying or what kind of health and safety they adhere to. I wonder if Geordie boy has public and employers liability insurance. Fair enough you got an efficient job done but what if they had damaged you or your property?
11 June 2013, 12:04 PM
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It's the sad truth these days mate, too many Brits won't get off their asses and work! Everyone complains about their jobs being taken, but when the immigrants have a better work ethic it's no surprise really.
11 June 2013, 12:12 PM
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11 June 2013, 12:27 PM
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Are you happy to do that F1? Is it good that we have a society full of transient workers who care little for civic responsibilities and their community (because they will go home in a few years)? Is it good for social stability and well being?
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11 June 2013, 12:33 PM
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Do what? Work 50/60 hours a week? Already do thanks!
How do you know whether they care or not? Anyway from what I have seen there is a growing proportion of the natives that care just as little! Like the natives some immigramnts will be good, some will be bad, some will stay, some won't.
What socail stability and wellbeing? From here you can drive to Burnley, Bolton, Oldham and Blackburn and see whole areas in decline, some are populated by immigrants and some by natives... some are good some are bad.... it's not a case of all the natives are bad or all the immigrants are bad... some people just don't give a **** no matter what their race!
What socail stability and wellbeing? From here you can drive to Burnley, Bolton, Oldham and Blackburn and see whole areas in decline, some are populated by immigrants and some by natives... some are good some are bad.... it's not a case of all the natives are bad or all the immigrants are bad... some people just don't give a **** no matter what their race!
11 June 2013, 12:35 PM
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Whenever I go to my local supermarkets I feel like I'm on holiday 
But go to Meadowhall, Trafford Park, Chesire Oaks etc and you'll be lucky to hear the non english !! Why do you suppose that is ?
But go to Meadowhall, Trafford Park, Chesire Oaks etc and you'll be lucky to hear the non english !! Why do you suppose that is ?
11 June 2013, 12:38 PM
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But you want local Britons who are expected to pay for families, pensions, houses, in an expensive country, to compete with them? It's manifestly unfair in some ways.
11 June 2013, 12:52 PM
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The eastern euros who earn peanuts and work long hours are happy to do this because they send money home to a place where living is cheap. There don't plan on being here permanently.
But you want local Britons who are expected to pay for families, pensions, houses, in an expensive country, to compete with them? It's manifestly unfair in some ways.
But you want local Britons who are expected to pay for families, pensions, houses, in an expensive country, to compete with them? It's manifestly unfair in some ways.
At the end of the day the guy is paying at least £3 over minimum wage (hardly peanuts) for relatively unskilled labour.... if a native Brit thinks that is grossly unfair then may I suggest he/she visits the planet's surface
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11 June 2013, 02:01 PM
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Have been trying to get two very large evergreens removed from my garden as last year with the wet summr they both partially fell over and my efforts to rescue them have been fruitless.
Called 4 local tree outfits. 3 didn't turn up to give an estimate and the 4th did and quoted £300 for the job including removing everything and tidying up a few other bits and pieces.
We shook hands and he duly turned up 3 days later and partially cut down one tree before leaving saying he'd be back the next day.... he never returned and didn't reply to my phone message. I didn't pay him a bean so no worries there, but I now had a wrecked tree all over the place.
In the supermarket on the weekend I saw an ad for gardening servies so called them. Geordie lad with a East European workforce. Spoke to him at 11am yesterday. He said did I mind them working in the evening? Of course not I said so after working on another job until 4:30pm yesterday they all turned up here at 5pm... 4 of them and the Geordie manging the procedure. Job done and perfect by 8:30pm. All rubbish removed ... £280!!!
The lad told me he has never been so busy and these bloody useless workshy sponging immigrants are happy to work any time. He pays them £9-£10 an hour and they are happy to work 50/60 hours a week. When he had a group of Brits working for him he said it was nothing but trouble!
This is the second time I have encountered this sort of story recently. Makes you wonder really!
Called 4 local tree outfits. 3 didn't turn up to give an estimate and the 4th did and quoted £300 for the job including removing everything and tidying up a few other bits and pieces.
We shook hands and he duly turned up 3 days later and partially cut down one tree before leaving saying he'd be back the next day.... he never returned and didn't reply to my phone message. I didn't pay him a bean so no worries there, but I now had a wrecked tree all over the place.
In the supermarket on the weekend I saw an ad for gardening servies so called them. Geordie lad with a East European workforce. Spoke to him at 11am yesterday. He said did I mind them working in the evening? Of course not I said so after working on another job until 4:30pm yesterday they all turned up here at 5pm... 4 of them and the Geordie manging the procedure. Job done and perfect by 8:30pm. All rubbish removed ... £280!!!
The lad told me he has never been so busy and these bloody useless workshy sponging immigrants are happy to work any time. He pays them £9-£10 an hour and they are happy to work 50/60 hours a week. When he had a group of Brits working for him he said it was nothing but trouble!
This is the second time I have encountered this sort of story recently. Makes you wonder really!
Company needed a deep clean on some heavy machinery and signed up some Polish guys to do same. They didn't last until Lunch time and walked off site. Some local guys completed the job. I heard the Polish guys didn't realise it would be such dirty work.
At least you got some work done for free off the first outfit.
11 June 2013, 02:04 PM
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11 June 2013, 05:29 PM
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We get agency in at our place and most are terrible , don't like working and can't speak a word of English. They quickly get sent home .
We probably get through 10 before we find a decent one
We probably get through 10 before we find a decent one
11 June 2013, 05:57 PM
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The eastern euros who earn peanuts and work long hours are happy to do this because they send money home to a place where living is cheap. There don't plan on being here permanently.
But you want local Britons who are expected to pay for families, pensions, houses, in an expensive country, to compete with them? It's manifestly unfair in some ways.
But you want local Britons who are expected to pay for families, pensions, houses, in an expensive country, to compete with them? It's manifestly unfair in some ways.
Natives think they are worth too much simple as. They need to be stripped of some of their fancy rights and get back in the real world.
11 June 2013, 07:16 PM
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The lad told me he has never been so busy and these bloody useless workshy sponging immigrants are happy to work any time. He pays them £9-£10 an hour and they are happy to work 50/60 hours a week. When he had a group of Brits working for him he said it was nothing but trouble!