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Old 16 May 2011 | 09:35 PM
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Talking Funny shaped exhausts tips.

What do you think?

Exhaust tips used to be round or oval.

Now we have bizarre triangles and stuff.

Reminds me of those games for toddlers where you put the right shape in the right hole.

Why a triangle? Does it have some special properties? Couldn't afford another side for a square? I know a Civic is a budget car but c'mon!



Old 16 May 2011 | 11:30 PM
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Purely style over function. Car designers are perpetually 'forced' by the buying public's expectation for fresh car design.
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The Honda Civic is one of the worst styled cars on sale at the moment. The over futuristic styling grew old and tiresome quickly.
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Does anyone know how the BMW mini exhaust tip was styled?
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Originally Posted by joz8968
Purely style over function. Car designers are perpetually 'forced' by the buying public's expectation for fresh car design.
Seriously, centre exit exhaust are the most stupid idea ever concieved.

The damn things leave black rings on my jeans whenever I reach into the boot of my Golf
Old 17 May 2011 | 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Jamz3k
The Honda Civic is one of the worst styled cars on sale at the moment. The over futuristic styling grew old and tiresome quickly.
And Pete bought one
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As said it's purely fashion over function.

You have to admit it does look kinda funky but it's just not practical. Also centre exit exhausts should only be used on rear/mid engined cars imo.
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Originally Posted by Jamz3k
The Honda Civic is one of the worst styled cars on sale at the moment. The over futuristic styling grew old and tiresome quickly.
It's dreadful I agree, the previous generation wasn't too bad...much more understated.
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At least they're not like these:






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Originally Posted by CREWJ
As said it's purely fashion over function.

You have to admit it does look kinda funky but it's just not practical. Also centre exit exhausts should only be used on rear/mid engined cars imo.
Exactly it's just gonna require more pipework and weight to route it to the centre.

Even more silly are split exhausts on an engine with a single exhaust manifold! i.e a transverse 4 line again....lol the Civic.
Old 17 May 2011 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by CREWJ
As said it's purely fashion over function.

You have to admit it does look kinda funky but it's just not practical. Also centre exit exhausts should only be used on rear/mid engined cars imo.
As the owner of a rear engined, centre exhaust car, it makes no sense to me other than style and to differentiate from older and lesser models!
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Well if you want to collect the exhaust from a Vee/flat engine then it makes sense to locate it centrally.
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
What do you think?

Exhaust tips used to be round or oval.

Now we have bizarre triangles and stuff.

Reminds me of those games for toddlers where you put the right shape in the right hole.

Why a triangle? Does it have some special properties? Couldn't afford another side for a square? I know a Civic is a budget car but c'mon!



But triangular smoke rings are far more interesting to look at.

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Old 17 May 2011 | 10:59 AM
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Anybody who bought one of those civics and a diesel is a idiot.

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Those Saxo's made me laugh. the pipes probably weigh more than the car.
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Originally Posted by CREWJ
Well if you want to collect the exhaust from a Vee/flat engine then it makes sense to locate it centrally.
Only if rear mounted, otherwise you have to route the exhaust around the rear differential.
Old 17 May 2011 | 11:32 AM
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I always have a smile at the 'twin' pipe exhausts where one of them is purely cosmetic (just a separate pipe welded onto the single exhaust pipe)

Or the straight out pipes when the actual exhaust is pointing down... so you can't tell it's a diesel....
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i like my car, where you can't see an exhaust unless you are lying on the ground at the back of the car - very neat

it does irritate me when you see these fancy 4" exhaust tips and can clearly see the 1.5" exhaust pipe behind it ...and this is on production cars too!
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What about Porsche, they love a poncy exhaust...





then there is Range Rover....

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Originally Posted by scottydog137
Does anyone know how the BMW mini exhaust tip was styled?
Allegedly:

The Mini's beer-can exhaust

One of the teams of designers working on the 2002 MINI was sitting around having a much-deserved beer after a 24-hour period of creating a full-size model out of clay, when chief designer Frank Stephenson spotted a flaw. "We don't have an exhaust pipe," he announced.
The model was to compete against those from 14 other teams the next day and every detail would count. Then a quick solution popped into Stephenson's head: He picked up an empty beer can, cut it in half, stripped off the paint, polished the metal, and glued it to the back of the car. It took just a few minutes.

The team won the competition. That's why there's a hint of a beer can at the end of the production model's exhaust pipe.
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Another reason for a central exhaust is to allow for a proper diffuser. but how many production cars have a diffuser?
Old 17 May 2011 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by CREWJ
Another reason for a central exhaust is to allow for a proper diffuser. but how many production cars have a diffuser?
How fast do you have to go to get any benefit though?

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Old 17 May 2011 | 01:18 PM
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My brother has a Civic Type R GT and the exhaust tips are not triangular, however the space they sit behind and push gasses through is triangular shaped.
It's actually quite a nice car to drive, although you can't see **** all out of the rear windows!
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Originally Posted by scottydog137
Does anyone know how the BMW mini exhaust tip was styled?
Badly.


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The Civic pipes aren`t triangular though. That`s just the exit `hole`. The actual tailpipes are round
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the audi one is pretty neat. I could see that in the middle of a TT bumper.
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Originally Posted by CREWJ
Well if you want to collect the exhaust from a Vee/flat engine then it makes sense to locate it centrally.
You have lost me there. A rear mounted flat engine has exhaust ports on both sides - so why have extra piping to bring the exhaust tips to the centre?

Originally Posted by CREWJ
Another reason for a central exhaust is to allow for a proper diffuser. but how many production cars have a diffuser?
I can think of at least two fabulous, albeit limited, production cars with genuine diffusers that do not have centre exhaust tips.
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Originally Posted by Leslie
How fast do you have to go to get any benefit though?

Les
You barely have to be going 40mph to make an efficient diffuser be beneficial.
Originally Posted by Trout
You have lost me there. A rear mounted flat engine has exhaust ports on both sides - so why have extra piping to bring the exhaust tips to the centre?

I can think of at least two fabulous, albeit limited, production cars with genuine diffusers that do not have centre exhaust tips.
I mean instead of having two separate exits. Ideally you would want to have the channels as big as possible, therefore to get the exhaust out of the rear you'd want it out of the middle.

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Originally Posted by CREWJ
Well if you want to collect the exhaust from a Vee/flat engine then it makes sense to locate it centrally.
I'm glad Subaru didn't do it - otherwise we'd not be treated to the unique unequal length headers-based "krobba krobba" burble!

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