When burglary goes wrong....
08 December 2009, 02:03 PM
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When burglary goes wrong....
08 December 2009, 02:24 PM
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Nice find Snazy. Poor woman, it's horrible to be in a situation where you have an intruder in your home. No matter what anyone says, you always act first and think later.
I have no problem in this scenario with her doing what needs to be done to protect her and her home. However, it doesn't sit comfortably with those who kill burglars who are retreating and have taken heed of the warnings. Tough situation and I hope she's not charged.
08 December 2009, 02:46 PM
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Sorry if that came across a bit insensitive towards your situation.
Thought you might like it though.
I definatly hope she does not even have to enter any kind of legal plea. Totally right in her actions if you ask me.
I know what you mean about finding someone in your house. I remember looking from my bedroom window toward the kitchen. First seeing the light on, then realising the window was open, then seeing someone (no one I knew) going through my damn fridge!
Grabbed the bat, but made noise doing it, so he was off and running by the time I made it round to the kitchen. Dont sleep properly for months/years after that!
Thought you might like it though.
I definatly hope she does not even have to enter any kind of legal plea. Totally right in her actions if you ask me.
I know what you mean about finding someone in your house. I remember looking from my bedroom window toward the kitchen. First seeing the light on, then realising the window was open, then seeing someone (no one I knew) going through my damn fridge!
Grabbed the bat, but made noise doing it, so he was off and running by the time I made it round to the kitchen. Dont sleep properly for months/years after that!
08 December 2009, 03:09 PM
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In America your home is your castle, and you have the right to defend it, yourself, and your family. Using deadly force is necessary.
In the UK, your home is also your Castle. Defend it, yourself, or your family in any manner other than a stern verbal warning, and you'll find yourself in court accused of hurting the poor criminal. Who, as it turn out, has more rights than you.
You've got to love this country.
In the UK, your home is also your Castle. Defend it, yourself, or your family in any manner other than a stern verbal warning, and you'll find yourself in court accused of hurting the poor criminal. Who, as it turn out, has more rights than you.
You've got to love this country.
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08 December 2009, 03:20 PM
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In America your home is your castle, and you have the right to defend it, yourself, and your family. Using deadly force is necessary.
In the UK, your home is also your Castle. Defend it, yourself, or your family in any manner other than a stern verbal warning, and you'll find yourself in court accused of hurting the poor criminal. Who, as it turn out, has more rights than you.
You've got to love this country.
In the UK, your home is also your Castle. Defend it, yourself, or your family in any manner other than a stern verbal warning, and you'll find yourself in court accused of hurting the poor criminal. Who, as it turn out, has more rights than you.
You've got to love this country.
If the woman was heard giving the man a verbal warning when she was on the phone she should be OK if its a state where you can defend yourself and the gun was registered.
Why cant you hear the shot
08 December 2009, 03:50 PM
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Im sure you do hear gunshot in the recording.
Yeah it varies from state to state out there. Some its a complete no-no. Some its a clear cut hell yeah! And others you may have to go to court to let others decide if it was the right thing to do.
Yeah it varies from state to state out there. Some its a complete no-no. Some its a clear cut hell yeah! And others you may have to go to court to let others decide if it was the right thing to do.
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I need to find out what the rules are here in France with self defense on your own property.
I recently joined a target shooting club and am awaiting my license to get some serious firearms.
Plan on getting a 9mm pistol to start with just got to decide which one
I recently joined a target shooting club and am awaiting my license to get some serious firearms.
Plan on getting a 9mm pistol to start with just got to decide which one
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Non-deadly kit is available: some of it needs to be registered after purchase mind. Im curious as to effective a 12b rubber ball is, when fired out of a pistol-length barrel. Id presume that itd see off most people though, unless they were there principally looking to hurt you, as opposed to steal your property...
08 December 2009, 04:21 PM
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Item 2 (where is the hash symbol on a Mac keyboard?) looks as though itll come keen.....
Item 2 (where is the hash symbol on a Mac keyboard?) looks as though itll come keen.....
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Item 2 (where is the hash symbol on a Mac keyboard?) looks as though itll come keen.....
Item 2 (where is the hash symbol on a Mac keyboard?) looks as though itll come keen.....
If you have the right license you can keep almost anything but not sure if you can defend yourself in your own home with it
08 December 2009, 04:38 PM
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Anything can come back at you... Id probably consider rubber ball rounds in a real shotgun. Failing that I can recommend 'Special SG', or for added range: rifled slugs (but make sure that you dont have a choked barrel!).
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Sorry if that came across a bit insensitive towards your situation.
Thought you might like it though.
I definatly hope she does not even have to enter any kind of legal plea. Totally right in her actions if you ask me.
I know what you mean about finding someone in your house. I remember looking from my bedroom window toward the kitchen. First seeing the light on, then realising the window was open, then seeing someone (no one I knew) going through my damn fridge!
Grabbed the bat, but made noise doing it, so he was off and running by the time I made it round to the kitchen. Dont sleep properly for months/years after that!
Thought you might like it though.
I definatly hope she does not even have to enter any kind of legal plea. Totally right in her actions if you ask me.
I know what you mean about finding someone in your house. I remember looking from my bedroom window toward the kitchen. First seeing the light on, then realising the window was open, then seeing someone (no one I knew) going through my damn fridge!
Grabbed the bat, but made noise doing it, so he was off and running by the time I made it round to the kitchen. Dont sleep properly for months/years after that!
I think our experience has finally gotten to the stage of being funny now! I think that she should be ok-if not I wouldn't object to funds being raised to send me out there to deal with the case on her behalf
lol
09 December 2009, 11:34 AM
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Hmmm. I am all for defending your home when you need to. Lets hope that is what this lady was doing. Its too hard to tell atm, as the information I read said that the man had crashed his pickup truck near her house. For all we know he went there for some help, and you can clearly hear him knocking on the door on the tape.
I don't know of many burglars who crash they getaway cars BEFORE they start to commit the offence!
I don't know of many burglars who crash they getaway cars BEFORE they start to commit the offence!
09 December 2009, 12:01 PM
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Hmmm. I am all for defending your home when you need to. Lets hope that is what this lady was doing. Its too hard to tell atm, as the information I read said that the man had crashed his pickup truck near her house. For all we know he went there for some help, and you can clearly hear him knocking on the door on the tape.
I don't know of many burglars who crash they getaway cars BEFORE they start to commit the offence!
I don't know of many burglars who crash they getaway cars BEFORE they start to commit the offence!
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