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Old 03 October 2009, 08:36 PM
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I work as a key worker for homeless people in a hostel. We haven't much in the way of entertainment for our clients and it looks like the old tv may be on the way out. I suggested writing a few letters to various companies, pointing out our background, charity status, what we do etc etc and seeing if we could get a huge new widescreen telly F.O.C
Only thing is a co-worker suggested this practise isn't strictly legal and could get us in trouble. This obviously would not be good!
But is it true?
Anyone out there who could clarify this for us?
Many thanks
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As far as I believe if its a charitable donation and the electrical goods are tested before installation then there is no law or charity commission guideline stopping you from doing it.
If you did it and took the TV home then its a different story but a charity is built on donations.
We do it for CHASE at work all the time. Gave them 10 PSP's last week alone.
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Google PRS... Performing Rights Society.

A guy we know has a keebab/Pizza takeaway, he has a TV in the shop and has to pay something like £120 ontop of his normal license.

I may have this a bit wrong as I am always twisted when I go in there.
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Oh yes PRS are indeed a bunch of cúnts
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Originally Posted by what would scooby do
Oh yes PRS are indeed a bunch of cúnts
I believe they are, he got collared for playing music in the shop too, he doesnt bother now unless its a CD by " non original artists."

I cant tell the differance as all I want is my Mighty Meaty, and foldy over garlic bread with cheese.
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Originally Posted by yoza
I believe they are, he got collared for playing music in the shop too, he doesnt bother now unless its a CD by " non original artists."

I cant tell the differance as all I want is my Mighty Meaty, and foldy over garlic bread with cheese.
extra chillies?
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Originally Posted by yoza
Google PRS... Performing Rights Society.

A guy we know has a keebab/Pizza takeaway, he has a TV in the shop and has to pay something like £120 ontop of his normal license.

I may have this a bit wrong as I am always twisted when I go in there.
No concerns on that point, we do pay it. Buggers
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So what's illegal then ??

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Old 03 October 2009, 10:25 PM
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It's only illegal if you get caught like everything in life
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Just do it and stuff the PC rules even if they exist.

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The OP pays the PRS..........so what's illegal ??

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Originally Posted by Midlife......
The OP pays the PRS..........so what's illegal ??

Shaun
I think he is unsure whether it's illegal or not to approach people to try and get stuff for free. Not sure but that's how I read it.

I don't know if it is, but I'd try anyway. My Mam used to do charity events, including raffles etc and used to write to companies to see if they would donate.
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I don't think it is illegal. I am involved in a number of companies and they get charitable requests.

He may be confused high street collections. It is illegal to solicit donations in the High Street. You can have a bucket, but can't shout about it!!!
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I think he means its illegal to ask for something for free on commercial business premises, for example (and this may be untrue but its what I have always been told.) Its illegal for a charity collector to go inside commercial premises and ask the owner/staff for money but doing it by letter in the post will be fine.
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Originally Posted by yoza
I believe they are, he got collared for playing music in the shop too, he doesnt bother now unless its a CD by " non original artists."

I cant tell the differance as all I want is my Mighty Meaty, and foldy over garlic bread with cheese.
You can legally play "royalty free internet radio" as far as i am aware

Last time i had a look i found a few of them.
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Originally Posted by StickyMicky
You can legally play "royalty free internet radio" as far as i am aware

Last time i had a look i found a few of them.
I will attempt to tell him, but I think saying "royalty free internet radio" after 8 pints is out of the question, maybe I will write it down...
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:: Royalty Free Music Radio - Quality Entertainment with NO Recurring Fees
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Originally Posted by andrewdelvard
I work as a key worker for homeless people in a hostel. We haven't much in the way of entertainment for our clients and it looks like the old tv may be on the way out. I suggested writing a few letters to various companies, pointing out our background, charity status, what we do etc etc and seeing if we could get a huge new widescreen telly F.O.C
Only thing is a co-worker suggested this practise isn't strictly legal and could get us in trouble. This obviously would not be good!
But is it true?
Anyone out there who could clarify this for us?
Many thanks
It is very difficult to understand how it can be regarded as illegal to ask for a charitable gift for a worthwhile cause. I personally would go ahead and do it anyway!

I have no doubt that there will be an OCD PC Plonker somewhere who will jump up and down because you used your own initiative and common sense. I would be inclined to give him the "short answer" should one turn up!

Good luck in finding one anyway.

Les
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If you go to your local skip I bet there are a load of Widescreen TVs there that are still working, but no one wants them so they get chucked out.

My Dad got rid of his 28" Hitachi TV a couple of months ago and just took it down the skip as he couldn't give it away. It cost about £800 I think about 8 years ago.
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Originally Posted by timmy2take
If you go to your local skip I bet there are a load of Widescreen TVs there that are still working, but no one wants them so they get chucked out.

My Dad got rid of his 28" Hitachi TV a couple of months ago and just took it down the skip as he couldn't give it away. It cost about £800 I think about 8 years ago.
IF THAT EVER HAPPENS AGAIN, ASK HIM NICELY TO TAKE IT TO A CHARITY SHOP...
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Charity shops do not take electrical items due to potential liability reasons. I have tried at a personal level; as well as trying to give away literally hundreds of PCs and no-one could take them (at least in the EU).
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Originally Posted by Trout
Charity shops do not take electrical items due to potential liability reasons. I have tried at a personal level; as well as trying to give away literally hundreds of PCs and no-one could take them (at least in the EU).
Just noticed the caps lock...sorry.


Well I didnt know that, what a waste.

We tried to give a good leather 3 peice suite to a charity shop, they turned us away because it had no fire retardant lables attached.

It didnt fit in with my wifes new colour scheme, yet it was like new.

The worlds gone mad.

Because it was taking up my cars bedroom, I had to pay to have it taken away.
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Could always try the chaps at United Kingdom (UK) Freecycle Groups' Homepage for stuff you want to get rid of.
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Originally Posted by timmy2take
If you go to your local skip I bet there are a load of Widescreen TVs there that are still working, but no one wants them so they get chucked out.

My Dad got rid of his 28" Hitachi TV a couple of months ago and just took it down the skip as he couldn't give it away. It cost about £800 I think about 8 years ago.
True. I put our 36" that cost £1k 5 years ago in the local free-ads as "free to uplift". Only 1 call and the guy that took it had burnt his house down with no insurance!
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Originally Posted by Trout
Charity shops do not take electrical items due to potential liability reasons. I have tried at a personal level; as well as trying to give away literally hundreds of PCs and no-one could take them (at least in the EU).
Some shops don't but there's a scheme near us where they take literally anything away, they repair it in house and sell it. We get a voucher which we can then donate to the charity of our choice. They took away our old Phillips 28" widescreen a couple of weeks back (had an intermittent fault on it where sometimes it wouldn't turn on).
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Some charity shops do take in electrical items. The ones near us certainly sell them, so I can only assume that they are accepting them as donations in one form or another.
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