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Old 22 July 2009, 04:51 PM
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The Labour party has decided to change its logo from a rose to a condom, believing it more accurately reflects their policies.

This is because a condom

allows for inflation
halts production
destroys the next generation
protects a bunch of ******
and gives you a sense of security whilst your being fcuked!!
Old 22 July 2009, 07:47 PM
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They have indeed, but I thought it was because they were:-

Strong
Reliable
Rarely Split - unlike the Tories
Can bounce back - being rubber
Can stretch itself when the need arises
Brave and full of spunk
A well lubricated machine ..
and delivers pleasure for the supporter

You've never had it better .....
Old 22 July 2009, 07:54 PM
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Quality come back Mr. Lewis. Bravo.
Old 22 July 2009, 08:17 PM
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Surely a nice picture of a grasping asylum seeker would be more apt, or a criminal being handed a wedge of cash in compensation for his civil liberties being infringed...
Old 22 July 2009, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by hutton_d
Their one and only supporter. Is that you?

Dave
I will not be voting Labour ...... but the thought of the Eton Boyz being elected fills me with dread - and, if they are elected, I can just see the posts on here then!

Anyone under the age of about 25 will not know much of how bad things get under a Tory Government ..... try getting some free, decent,medical treatment under the Tories!
Old 22 July 2009, 09:18 PM
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no such thing as free treatment - just how obscured the costs are...
Old 22 July 2009, 10:01 PM
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It's free at the point of need .... and that vital, fantastic, piece of Labour committment should never be thrown away - it is at risk under the Tories ... not so under Labour.

It's just how it is ..
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
I will not be voting Labour ...... but the thought of the Eton Boyz being elected fills me with dread - and, if they are elected, I can just see the posts on here then!

Anyone under the age of about 25 will not know much of how bad things get under a Tory Government ..... try getting some free, decent,medical treatment under the Tories!
Sounds like it's BNP for pete then.

How times have changed...
Old 22 July 2009, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
Brave and full of spunk
Brave? The analogy fell down for me here. I wouldn't have put brave and condom together, it's just too much of a stretch.
Old 23 July 2009, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
It's free at the point of need .... and that vital, fantastic, piece of Labour committment should never be thrown away
Well thats your opinion, but yet you expect me to pay for other peoples "needs". Pardon me while I say get some personal responsibility.

(apologies for going OT!)
Old 23 July 2009, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
They have indeed, but I thought it was because they were:-

Strong
Reliable
Rarely Split - unlike the Tories
Can bounce back - being rubber
Can stretch itself when the need arises
Brave and full of spunk
A well lubricated machine ..
and delivers pleasure for the supporter

You've never had it better .....
A brave try Pete, but not totally accurate.

They are a very weak government of course, and actually badly split on many sides. They keep bouncing alright, largely backwards as you say in fact. They seem to be stretched all the time in alright, working hard to produce new initiatives but never managing to fulfil them in fact.

Not brave enough to hold a General Election of course-especially when their new so called leader took over from the multifarious liar in front of him.

Well lubricated yes-in that they seem to do a lot of slipping up most of the time, and when it comes to pleasure, they always appear to be doing their best to stop anything like that for the rest of us, as in the real case.

Tell us how much better we will be having it when they have to start finding the money to service our enormous national debt and they have run out of the money they have borrowed and printed!

Les
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
Well thats your opinion, but yet you expect me to pay for other peoples "needs". Pardon me while I say get some personal responsibility.

(apologies for going OT!)
You don't understand how the system works .... you pay for those in need while you are not in need, then someone else pays for you when you are in need. Seems fair to me?
Old 23 July 2009, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
Well thats your opinion, but yet you expect me to pay for other peoples "needs". Pardon me while I say get some personal responsibility.

(apologies for going OT!)
Personal responsibilty includes your responsibilities to society. It's not about looking after number one.
Old 23 July 2009, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
You don't understand how the system works .... you pay for those in need while you are not in need, then someone else pays for you when you are in need. Seems fair to me?
No, paying for your own health insurance is fair, paying for someone elses is not
Old 23 July 2009, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bigsinky
The Labour party has decided to change its logo from a rose to a condom, believing it more accurately reflects their policies.
Does anyone else remember the Spitting Image sketch back in about 1985 or so when Labour adopted the rose as their symbol?

The Kinnock puppet (how appropriate) expalined it by saying that "The rose perfectly symbolyses the Labour party. It looks good at the top - but in below there's a load of ******."

How true that remains (apart from the "looks good at the top" bit.)

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Old 23 July 2009, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenm2
No, paying for your own health insurance is fair, paying for someone elses is not
Like I said, you misunderstand how the system works ..... it is not an insurance system (I suspect it would be under the Tories).

When you are at the point of need, others will pick up the cost on your behalf - just as you did when they were ill ..... if you never get ill then think yourself extremely lucky!
Old 24 July 2009, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
Like I said, you misunderstand how the system works .....
I do understand unfortunately

Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
it is not an insurance system (I suspect it would be under the Tories).
agreed - just like old age pension, it is a state run ponzi scheme. We all know how that ended for Madoff... Haven't seen any Tory proposals...

Originally Posted by SunnySideUp
When you are at the point of need, others will pick up the cost on your behalf - just as you did when they were ill ..... if you never get ill then think yourself extremely lucky!
Why should I expect others to pay for my health care? They have no obligation to me, and in turn I am not born into slavery, whereby I have to work for the "needs" of others.
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The NHS is a great institution by a proper Labour government at the time. The principle was right and everyone in the country benefited from it. To whinge about paying for someone else is selfish and also you might just find one day that you are very grateful that the rest of the country is paying for treating your own nasty illness.

It is still a great institution and it is to be hoped that it will continue in the way that it was designed in the first place.

Les
Old 24 July 2009, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
The NHS is a great institution by a proper Labour government at the time. The principle was right and everyone in the country benefited from it. To whinge about paying for someone else is selfish and also you might just find one day that you are very grateful that the rest of the country is paying for treating your own nasty illness.

It is still a great institution and it is to be hoped that it will continue in the way that it was designed in the first place.

Les
I am quite happy financing my own health care thanks. And your view of the NHS is spectacularly out of date and rose tinted - we have amongst the lowest rate of cancer and heart disease survival in the developed world, healthcare rationing, hospital infections and huge waste. None of these things come anywhere close to being a "great institution". The sooner the idea of socialised medicine is scrapped the better for everyone ESPECIALLY for its victims, I mean patients

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Old 24 July 2009, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by NotoriousREV
Personal responsibilty includes your responsibilities to society. It's not about looking after number one.
My responsibilty to society begins and ends with not harming others. Imposing your views on me does not fall into that category
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