shaggy6

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They get me so mad! overtaking in the snow at 60 when every one is going 30! One infront of me on the way to work over took and crashed sending a car into the central reservation.. then he got out like he'd done nouthing wrong.. then turned out he a foregien plates on!! buggers... they should ban overtaking for lorries

spireite

Waits for Shaggy1973

Jamo

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dont drive like a silly little girl then

plus just for information sake lorries in the eu are restricted to 56mph.

tanyatriangles

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MUahahahahahahahahahhaha!

Well, nice theory.............You actually been over there? And why is it always Johnny Foreigner going at speeds in excess of 60mph on OUR motorways?

Jamo

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we are in the eu

but yes I have driven abroad.

cookstar

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Agreed, I have seen some shocking driving from Lorries in these conditions, to be honest I'm not even sure they should be allowed on the road when the weather gets as bad as it's been.

Jamo

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common sense has to be put in place sometimes, ive not gone in today as I really dont fancy driving a 32 tonne lorry in it.

im not going to comment further. happy arguments.

scoobynewbie72

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They arent, thats why Shaggy is at home lol

Gordo

there are crap truck drivers and crap car drivers - doesn't make them all crap???

Leslie

But the ones that are can be lethal!

Les

pimmo2000

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Same goes for car .. but there are more of them

Henrik

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For some reason the lorries in e.g. Sweden seem to be able to keep up pace on snow a lot better than cars.

I remember driving once through thick snow fall in the countryside (nice big a-road) and after abuot an hour you couldn't even see the road anymore (or the ditch at the side of it), so had to crawl forward at about 30mph, and then this lorry overtook me and cleared the road enough for me to keep up with him

Not sure what my point with the above story is, apart from maybe that they're not always useless causing delays

cookstar

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Really, ah is Shaggy the only lorry driver in the UK?


I saw plenty this morning driving as usual, like morons.

Chip

The standard of driving from lorry drivers is far better than car drivers in the UK. Anyone who thinks differently should spwnd a day in a truck and they will see what I mean.

Chip

billythekid

Dont worry, CPC is coming this year, then probably periodic re-tests for C and C+E. That should force a good % of drivers off the road. Might make your tin of beans a bit more expensive though..

Not that I think CPC is the way forward myself.

cookstar

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Not what I saw this morning wasn't.

I drive through an industrial estate to get to the M1, and it was carnage out there.

Driving home Monday morning, down the M4 and M25, thick snow everywhere, everyone crawling along at 30ish, then whoosh lorry in the FAR lane, where I'm sure they are not supposed to be in the first place, overtaking a whole row of cars. I can't be sure but I would guess he was doing about 56MPH.

Luke

Companies put them under so much pressure. We have a local skip company (Winters) that cause havoc. jumping red lights and using hard shoulder etc. they drive like nutters

GC8

If you think about it (never the ScoobyNet Massives strong point), a lorry is safer in the snow than a car. With regards to HGV drivers all 'driving like morons'; there are poor drivers, but theyre a small percentage; and statistically professional drivers will be far safer and more considerate than car drivers.

cookstar

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If that's aimed at my comment, I didn't say "all" I said "plenty" as was the case this morning.

How are lorries safer than cars?

GC8

Not at yours directly, or Id have quoted you: more the ScoobyNet massive. Safer because you have a far greater amount of weight over each roadwheel. This gives them traction where other vechiles struggle. A car places about 300kgs over each wheel, whereas a lorry will place 2.6 to 2.8 tonnes on each wheel.

Simon

scarey

I would particularly like to thank the BP petrol tanker driver at Winnersh (Berkshire) crossroads this morning that decided to stick his lorry across the whole of the junction rather than wait for his exit to be clear. SIX times I looked at a green light and couldn't move 'cos of that tw*t.

fatherpierre

I saw the opposite of the OP's post today.

Lorry doing 30 on a dual carriageway (60 limit) with lane 2 caked with snow. Some dick in a 4x4 - think it was a one of those Mitsubishi trucks decided to thunder past us all at about 60.

He lost it and bounced straight into the cab of the lorry. Lucky he didn't connect with the lorry's wheels or he'd have been squished. Caused about 30 mins delay for eveyone else driving safely.

Iwan

I propose a protest, "British Roads for British People".

phil_wrx

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lol that aint gonna happen

Spoon

There are awful drivers across the whole spectrum, lorries to cars. Over a number of years now I'd use the term 'professional' (for anything other than being paid to drive) for the lorry drivers I've seen in action very loosely. Gone have the days when you frequently see impressive lorry driving but then I could also say that for Police driving.

c_maguire

Cars are generally not hinged in the middle however.

GC8

True.

Scooby Soon!

Having seen a container lorry on our estate road that was stuck in the snow for 6 hours that we had to dig out 10 ft at a time and place bags of salt under each wheel to get it moving with it constantly jack knifing Even with a john deere tractor or a JCB teleporter made not much differance (although enough to get it moving!) HGV's are not too good in the snow. I would advise to keep well clear most of the time they are just "gliding"

billythekid

Which bit? CPC? Because its already in place.

Or re-tests. I did say probably . I really do think there will be some big changes, if not re-tests then I can see the CPC having a test as part of it within the next 10 years.

GC8

Theres no chance of re-tests: the system cant cope. With regards to taction, it would be foolish to think that the weight would magically allow the lorry to grip through compacted snow and ice, wouldnt it?