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Old 18 July 2008, 12:04 PM
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Default Drug Cheat DOESN'T go to China

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Old 18 July 2008, 12:05 PM
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BBC SPORT | Olympics | Athletics | Chambers loses Olympic ban case
Old 18 July 2008, 12:05 PM
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Get him in the Tour de France!
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Its a shame really, he has got the talent but ruined for himself by cheating 5 years ago.

I am in agreement with the fact the he should never be allowed to represent his country now as its enforces the message that cheats will not be tolerated.
Old 18 July 2008, 12:40 PM
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Don't do drugs!!!
Old 18 July 2008, 12:58 PM
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Surely the title should read "One of the few athletes that gets caught DOESN'T go to China"?
Old 18 July 2008, 01:12 PM
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What happened to his American football and Rugby League ambitions?
He basically failed the Rugby League trial

Remember seeing the club on the news saying that he effectively 'needed too much technical work, Rugby wise' to make it...

ie. he was pish
Old 18 July 2008, 01:24 PM
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The Rugby thing failed because of his poor "hand / eye co-ordination"..he basically couldn't catch LOL
Old 18 July 2008, 01:46 PM
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I think the whole Olympics has lost touch with its ideals anyway. It always used to be an amateur contest, and even the officials are on the take now!

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Old 18 July 2008, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by The Hoff
Its a shame really, he has got the talent but ruined for himself by cheating 5 years ago.

I am in agreement with the fact the he should never be allowed to represent his country now as its enforces the message that cheats will not be tolerated.
unless your a professional footballer of course.

Funny how failing to take a drugs test in the Olympics, or any other professional sport is treated as an automatic positive, yet there ban is not lifetime.


Sorry, no one forgets to take a drugs test!!!

Mart
Old 18 July 2008, 08:55 PM
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I wish he'd say what really went on.

I find it hard to believe he took drugs all on his own.

I'd suggest he was told what to take, and when, and what to use to cover it up/get away with it.

Drug cheats will always be one step ahead on the drug testers.
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In some ways this gives out the wrong signals to alot of kids. They are sending the message that once a junky always a junky. You have to bare in mind the way these kind of folk think. They will have the theory theres no point trying to give it up cause they'll still carry the label.

Like a few others have touched on, the whole Olympics is riddled with drugs (of the banned kind).
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and too bloody right he shouldn't.

he trained for two years with the stuff, so thats two years of stamina etc building
Old 18 July 2008, 11:03 PM
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Nurofen Cold & Flu would get you the same two year ban!
Sniff.
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The plonker could have done perfectly well with out anything
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Originally Posted by davyboy
I wish he'd say what really went on.

I find it hard to believe he took drugs all on his own.

I'd suggest he was told what to take, and when, and what to use to cover it up/get away with it.

Drug cheats will always be one step ahead on the drug testers.
I'm guessing that you haven't followed this at all until todays court decision.

There has already been wide spread coverage that he was told what to take and when by Victor Conte, using Balco Products. Victor Conte has already done time for aiding American athletes with steriods etc.

In addition to this Dwain provided a dossier on what he took and when, and for what reasons, including a letter from Conte explaining in detail the reasons for each supplement

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Originally Posted by 97TURBO
In some ways this gives out the wrong signals to alot of kids. They are sending the message that once a junky always a junky. You have to bare in mind the way these kind of folk think. They will have the theory theres no point trying to give it up cause they'll still carry the label.

Like a few others have touched on, the whole Olympics is riddled with drugs (of the banned kind).
Except that the message might well be that it just is not worth getting into the drugs anyway and that is the sort of disappointment that you can expect for being so stupid in the first place.

Letting him go to the Olympics tells them that there is a good chance that you will get away with it.

What do you think is the best all round action when you think about it that way? They also say that the effect of those types of drugs can stay with you for a very long time so he may well still be enjoying an unfair advantage.

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Old 19 July 2008, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Except that the message might well be that it just is not worth getting into the drugs anyway and that is the sort of disappointment that you can expect for being so stupid in the first place.

Letting him go to the Olympics tells them that there is a good chance that you will get away with it.

What do you think is the best all round action when you think about it that way? They also say that the effect of those types of drugs can stay with you for a very long time so he may well still be enjoying an unfair advantage.

Les
Thats the thing, i wasnt sure before the court case and im still not sure now what the best outcome would have been. Its an even 50/50 in my opinion.
Old 19 July 2008, 03:57 PM
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Its only a few steriods I can't really see what the fuss is about. Ban him for a year or two then let hime back its not like he killed anyone.
Old 19 July 2008, 04:35 PM
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Yeah, first I heard of it

Originally Posted by rob878
I'm guessing that you haven't followed this at all until todays court decision
Old 19 July 2008, 10:47 PM
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I think he should of been allowed to go, its like saying that when you have done a crime, paid a sentance for it, then you will be punished again and again for it in the future. plus, he would have been one of our (as a country) best bets for a gold medal! (there is of course exceptions to this rule such as paedos etc, so dont try and throw that one in)

just my 2p, but thats what I think.
Old 19 July 2008, 10:57 PM
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The problem is if he's done it once then there's always going to be a big question mark if he'll do it again. The personal embarrassment is one thing, but the guy has been representing his country and he was happy to take the risk of getting caught and disgracing it. That shows an appalling lack of character. Personally I wouldn't take the risk with him.

We never knowingly employ thieves in the banking world even if their convictions are spent. Would you be happy that an ex-thief is looking after your money as they've now promised to go straight?
Old 19 July 2008, 11:20 PM
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It's very tempting when your in that competitive environment to take enhancing drugs.your always looking for the quickest short cut to get an advantage above everyone else..The guy did a stupid thing,and if he had been allowed to run for GB,then it would have been sending out a message that.ohh it soft Britain again..plus i don't think it would of been good for the other members of the GB team for him to be let back in..the decision is Right.at the end of the day he wanted a quicker way to enhance his performance..he got caught,and now hes paying the price for it...
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Don't worry, there are PLENTY more "cheats" going to, hosting and running the event!

I hear the equivalent of the entire mfg base in Victoria and New South Wales here in Australia is being "shutdown" for the event in China.

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