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Old 06 June 2008, 01:27 PM
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It would appear that the good old tax payers are footing the bill for that w@nker Charles and that stupid cow of a wife of his Camilla as they went on a Caribbean cruise.

It's nothing but a joke.

I don't really understand the need for a royal family anyway.
What purpose do they actually serve - seriously though.

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Old 06 June 2008, 01:31 PM
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What purpose do they actually serve - seriously though.
They give the feckin tourists something to look at in London and thus keeps them away from the rest of us

Long live the Queen
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I don't mind chipping in for their hols, good on 'em!

They bring in far more than they cost, so what's the problem?
Old 06 June 2008, 02:08 PM
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They give the feckin tourists something to look at in London and thus keeps them away from the rest of us

Long live the Queen
Old 06 June 2008, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul3446
I don't mind chipping in for their hols, good on 'em!

They bring in far more than they cost, so what's the problem?
Absofeckinlutely! God save the Queen
Old 06 June 2008, 03:34 PM
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Who says the tax payer is paying? Where's your source?
Old 06 June 2008, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul3446
I don't mind chipping in for their hols, good on 'em!

They bring in far more than they cost, so what's the problem?
**

exactly. there is no problem. just the usual, tiresome whiff of inverted snobbery and 'class' envy. as if class were even relevant anymore ...
Old 06 June 2008, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul3446
I don't mind chipping in for their hols, good on 'em!

They bring in far more than they cost, so what's the problem?
No they don't. I did a whole project at school on this admittedly a few years ago before the Queen started to pay tax but financially we would be much better off wothout them.
Old 06 June 2008, 03:44 PM
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exactly. there is no problem. just the usual, tiresome whiff of inverted snobbery and 'class' envy. as if class were even relevant anymore ...
If class is no longer an issue then why have a royal family ? If we are committed to a class free society then the royal family have to go. Keeping them is an indication that who your dad was is more important than who you are.
Royalty and a class free society cannot go together.
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Originally Posted by mamoon2
Who says the tax payer is paying? Where's your source?
It was in the papers today.

Some breakdowns were also given.
Basically they hired a 50 million pounds yaught
Spent 10K+ on either first class or business class flight
Huge spend of food


I don't agree with it, there's absolutely no need for a royal family.
Charlie boy is basically thick and his **** clearly rules his brain.
Seriously - which one of the 2 would you rather have banged Diana or Camilla?

Harry is a renegade, William - doesn't know what he wants to do.

Apart from fly helicopters all over the place taking his gingus brother to parties.

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Old 06 June 2008, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by urban
Charlie boy is basically think and his **** clearly rules his brain.
now that can't be true - even viagra wouldn't help in that department with cammy



"They give the feckin tourists something to look at in London and thus keeps them away from the rest of us"

Hmm - do they actually come out of hiding to greet the tourists? the tourists just visit the palace, etc so even if the royals were aboilished the tourists would still visit
Old 06 June 2008, 09:40 PM
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parasites the whole lot of them
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I like the royal and the heritage we have, ive served at st james palace and buckingham palace when i was in army.

cant belive the mod sold wellington barracks
Old 07 June 2008, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
No they don't. I did a whole project at school on this admittedly a few years ago before the Queen started to pay tax but financially we would be much better off wothout them.

Your basis your argument on a school project ... a school project you made ?

Not sure that counts as a good source
Old 07 June 2008, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
Your basis your argument on a school project ... a school project you made ?

Not sure that counts as a good source
Lol I did chuckle at that. Since when did school projects become an official source of information

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Old 07 June 2008, 09:56 AM
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IMHO, it's all a matter of respect. I support the Royal family - in fact reverting back to Royal rule wouldn't be a bad thing. Government to support and then uphold the laws that the Queen/King decides upon.

Worked before in this country, and works around the world.

There is no such thing as a classless society and whist humans think that they are better than others, there never will be. And that is a good thing - why work and "better yourself" for it not to actually mean anything?

all imho of course
Old 07 June 2008, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
Your basis your argument on a school project ... a school project you made ?

Not sure that counts as a good source
Admitedly a school project at 15 isn't the greatest reference but I did alot of research and there wasn't a single source who managed to make a case for the Royal family being a good thing financially apart from the government itself who completely ignored the fact that becoming a republic would actually allow us to make more money from Royalty realated tourism.
Old 07 June 2008, 04:55 PM
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it costs the tax payer just over 60p per year to keep them

From http://www.royal.gov/uk
"Head of State expenditure has reduced significantly over the past decade, from £87.3 million in 1991-92 to £37.3 million in 2006-07. In the year 2006-07 The Queen cost the taxpayer just 62 pence per person.
Head of State expenditure is the official expenditure relating to The Queen's duties as Head of State and Head of the Commonwealth.

Head of State expenditure is met from public funds in exchange for the surrender by The Queen of the revenue from the Crown Estate. In the financial year to 31 March 2006 the revenue surplus from the Crown Estate paid to the Treasury amounted to £190.8 million.

Head of State expenditure for 2006-07 was £37.4 million. This was 0.03% less than in the previous year (decrease of 2.7% in real terms).

Head of State expenditure has reduced significantly over the past decade, from £87.3 million (expressed in current pounds) in 1991-92.

Head of State expenditure excludes the costs of Police and Army security and of Armed Services ceremonial, as figures are not available.

Every year the Royal Household publishes an Annual Summary of Head of State expenditure, together a full report on Royal public finances. The two-page Annual Summary and full Royal Public Finances report can be downloaded as Acrobat pdf files at the bottom of this page.

A summary of Head of State expenditure met from public funds in the year to 31 March 2007 reads as follows:

2007 2006
£m £m
The Queen's Civil List (figures are for calendar years 2007 and 2006) 12.2 11.2
Parliamentary Annuities 0.4 0.4
Grants-in-aid 20.6 20.3
Expenditure met directly by Government Departments and the Crown Estate 4.1 5.5 "
From the above website you can download a two-page annual summary of expenditure 2006-07 (pdf, 165kB)
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I don't mind paying 62p a year for our Royal Family
Old 07 June 2008, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by negri
it costs the tax payer just over 60p per year to keep them



Head of State expenditure excludes the costs of Police and Army security and of Armed Services ceremonial, as figures are not available.

)
I will bet it excludes a few other things as well so a bit of an irrelevant figure
as well as cost being the least inportant of the reasons to ditch the queen.
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Originally Posted by Paul3446
I don't mind chipping in for their hols, good on 'em!

They bring in far more than they cost, so what's the problem?


Chip
Old 08 June 2008, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Abdabz
Absofeckinlutely! God save the Queen

Old 08 June 2008, 03:48 PM
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I preferred the Royals when they were on spitting image..OHHHHH Philip..
Old 08 June 2008, 04:57 PM
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Reason to keep the Royal family.

(i)They "operate aat a profit"
(ii)They bring in companies business that would not ordinarily come to the UK
(iii)They promote Britain and British companies all over the world, to the most poerful people in the world
(iv)If you go republic, that means an elected head of state. That means party politics, that means short termism, that means self interest (you wouldn't "apply" to be head of state for anything other than personal gain).

The advantage that a Royal family gives you that no other system can, is that the people in it are born into it. They have no choice, whether they want it or not (and I suspect on more than one occasion, they haven't wanted it).
Old 08 June 2008, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Luan Pra bang
Keeping them is an indication that who your dad was is more important than who you are.
Who your dad was/is isn't more important, but is important. I understand clever people refer to this as genetic inheritance.

Genetics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Long live the Queen.
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Originally Posted by urban
It was in the papers today.

Some breakdowns were also given.
Basically they hired a 50 million pounds yaught
Spent 10K+ on either first class or business class flight
Huge spend of food


I don't agree with it, there's absolutely no need for a royal family.
Charlie boy is basically thick and his **** clearly rules his brain.
Seriously - which one of the 2 would you rather have banged Diana or Camilla?

Harry is a renegade, William - doesn't know what he wants to do.

Apart from fly helicopters all over the place taking his gingus brother to parties.
You would do better to keep your inverted snobbery and green eyes in check until you mature enough to know what you are talking about.

Les
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