Husaberk

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...049791,00.html

Before anybody gets too excited about the header I'm quite sure most politicians would try this if they thought they could get away with it.

dsmith

I dont understand why you have a question mark in the title.

unclebuck

It was only a matter of time before they tried something like this.

Black shirts and Swastika arm bands will be next for party memebers.

hedgehog

"We German Social Democrats pledge ourselves solemnly in this historic hour to the principles of humanity and justice, of freedom and socialism. No enabling act can give you power to destroy ideas which are eternal and indestructible."

This enraged Hitler and he jumped up to respond.

"You are no longer needed! - The star of Germany will rise and yours will sink! Your death knell has sounded!"

http://www.govsux.com/enable.htm

mart360

That is indeed worrying,

i can see far reaching implications,

i wont mention here as the factions will kick off, but it relates to another article

that was in print earlier this week


nother letter to the local member methinks


mart

GC8

This doesnt have a hope in hell of getting past the house of lords. Oh! Hold on; the shower of bastards have already sorted that out..... Castrate the upper house so you can go through the democratic motions twice and then steam roller the fucker through with no regard for democracy at all!

warrenm2

I have already written to my MP on this. His answer as follows (spelling mistakes are mine) :-

Thank you for your letter message about the Governments Legislative and Regulatory Reform Bill. I fully support the aspiration to reduce the amount of regulation, red tape and bureaucracy in this country, which is supposedly the aim behind this bill. Independant studies have shown that the Uk's economic competiveness has slipped in comparison to other countries since 1997; one of the keys reasons for this is that we have become over-regulated over recent years. The British Chamber of Commerce has estimated the cost of new regulations introduced on business since Labour came to power is now approaching £40 bn. This is a heavy burden for British business to bear, and I firmly believe that this trend must be reversed.

I am not convinced however, that the L & R reform billis the best way to achieve genuine deregulation in this country. I accept that the Bill could provide genuine benefits for business, but believe that crucial changes must be made to its provisions before it can become law.

I am particularly concerned at the potential for Parliament to be by-passed by the order-making powers contained in Part I of the Bill. These powers are extremely constitutionally significant. There is a precedent for Governments possessing the power to relieve burdens without full Parliamentary approval (DCOA 1994), but the Bill extends powers available to Ministers while (sic) relaxing the constraints of Parliamentary scrutiny.

The Bill does not actually mention deregulation, so it is perfectly possible that the powers could be used to introduce new legislation and regulation, rather than to relieve burdens. It is imperative that the circumstances in which these powers can be used are limited and clearly set out in the Bill.

I would like to assure you that Oliver Heald MP, the shadow Constitutional Affairs Secetary, will be working hard to ensure that the proper safeguards are built into the Bill and that Parliament is not sidelined.

So thats Ok then.... Anyone live in Hertfordshire North East constituency?

unclebuck

Looks and reads like one of pslewis' cut and paste jobs.

warrenm2

It was from my MP, they probably have form letters for all sorts of enquiries.. You can read an independant lawyers view of the Bill here (in pdf)

unclebuck

Write back, and ask what practical steps he is proposing to take to ensure that such a bill could never become law.

... oh, and tell him unclebuck wants to know...

zip929

Very worrying indeed....we are ...

Vegescoob

I'd already seen this and was not surprised one iota.
It will go through, the majority of the voting population will not even realise and even if they did will not believe the inherent implications.

r32

It makes the future very worrying, the country and freedom are going down the pan. What with ID cards vehicle tracking, no Parliament what next?

Bonehead

Anyone suprised by this?

I always wondered what living in a cold war eastern block country or a bannana republic was like.
Well, thanks to those bunch of ******* facists down in London we're gonna find out.

What on earth can anyone do to stop them?

Flatcapdriver

You can start by writing to your MP. Most people will merely whinge about it and do nothing which is an example of democracy inaction. Alternatively, you could make your opinions known to your MP and see democracy in action.

lozgti

I thought TB decided to ignore everyone else's opinion in a very undemocratic kind of way.Hence the plan.

Europe= Tons of legislation/red tape.

Who are the labour voters?

Leslie

Just another part of the secret agenda of course. Its a real frightener. All these things they are slippping in depend on the honesty and good behaviour of the Government in power as far as the way we personally are affected, and how far do you trust these *****?

When I mentioned the eventual abandonment of democratic voting since as far as the ruling power was concerned, it was no longer necessary, I was not joking!

Les

Martin_Aimless

A very good question. At a guess I would say they comprise mainly of:

Public Sector workers, Civil Service employees, benefit sponging malingerers, gay and lesbian people, the weak minded and easily led, and of course our good friends the ethnic minorities.

Between them they were enough to provide New Labour a disasterous third term in office even though they actually failed to get a majority of votes cast.

warrenm2

In England....