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Old 14 November 2005, 04:31 PM
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Question 51 in a 30 zone

My mate has been caught by a camera at this speed. Any idea, other than a proper spanking, what he can expect? He's pleaded guilty on the letter, so hes not trying to get out of it - just what to expect.

I thought it would be a 3 points and £60 fine. He thinks 4 points and court appearance?

It was on a dual carriageway 30 zone in the morning of a weekend. Dont know if that makes a difference?

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Old 14 November 2005, 04:34 PM
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3 points and a fine. 30mph above a speed limit (any limit) and you're (Sorry "he's") in trouble
Old 14 November 2005, 04:34 PM
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Did he get a NIP letter? Then its 3 points and £60. Guessing he got that as hes been given the option to plead guilty by post.

If he got a summons to court, its anybodies guess nowadays!
Old 14 November 2005, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Milamber
3 points and a fine. 30mph above a speed limit (any limit) and you're (Sorry "he's") in trouble
yep, it may end up being a larger fine as it is quite a bit over the speed limit...
Old 14 November 2005, 05:10 PM
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It was on a dual carriageway 30 zone in the morning of a weekend. Dont know if that makes a difference?
Oh..... makes all the difference, they'll let you (I mean your mate) off, as it was at the weekend
Old 14 November 2005, 05:51 PM
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Chances are he won't get NIP'd due to the speed. May find a court appearance looming. Either way, probably 4-6 points and £100-£150 fine. IMHO.
Old 14 November 2005, 05:52 PM
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Chances are he won't get NIP'd due to the speed. May find a court appearance looming. Either way, probably 4-6 points and £100-£150 fine. IMHO.

"He" should think himself extremely lucky if he gets offered 3 points and £60

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Old 14 November 2005, 06:00 PM
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Its not big and its not clever doing those sort of speeds.
Old 14 November 2005, 06:34 PM
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3 points and a £60 fine.

Usually, the guideline is; 25 or more above the speed limit, and you`re in Court. 30 more, and you`re disqualified.

Seeing as it`s 21 above, it will probably be dealt with as an ordinary fixed penalty, as on top line.
Old 14 November 2005, 07:45 PM
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fixed 3points and 60 quid, no more than usual. Its not too fast so I wouldnt worry. maybe over 60 would be a court appearance, maybe, but this would just get reeled off the printer and stuck in an envelope like all the others, not quick enough to be checked out.
Old 14 November 2005, 08:59 PM
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I am currently involved in a 42 in a 30....if (and it is IF) you get a conditional offer/fixed penalty it will be 3 points.
If that goes to court-looking at 5 point minimum (magistrates guidelines)
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Originally Posted by Freak
If that goes to court-looking at 5 point minimum (magistrates guidelines)
Nope that is incorrect; its dependant on the speed and the area in which you are speeding. If (and you most probably will), you are offered a fixed penalty it will be a £60 fine and three points. If you plead not guilty you will have to go to court where you can still only receive 3 points but you do stand the chance of a far higher fine.

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Old 14 November 2005, 10:05 PM
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Is everyone STILL arguing over this? jeez...
Old 15 November 2005, 09:03 AM
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It may well be up to the particular police force in that area. None of us really know the answer Marky, he will just have to wait for what the police decide to do.

Hope you are well

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Old 15 November 2005, 10:23 AM
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Depends on the area. My brother got caught doing 50 on the dual carraigeway in Motherwell. 3 points and a fine; think it was around £60 - I'll check.
Old 15 November 2005, 10:36 AM
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Marky,

For 52 in a 30 (Muirhouse dual carraigeway) my Brother got 3 points and £100 fine. That was about 3 weeks ago. The tw@t

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Old 15 November 2005, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by rr_ww
Did he get a NIP letter? Then its 3 points and £60. Guessing he got that as hes been given the option to plead guilty by post.

If he got a summons to court, its anybodies guess nowadays!
NIP always proceeds the summons or offer of fixed penalty. The NIP can be verbal or written.

Once the NIP has been returned, a decision is made whether to offer a fixed penalty (or driving course) or to refer to CPS.
Old 15 November 2005, 01:24 PM
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For 52 in a 30 (Muirhouse dual carraigeway)
...he's a brave man to drive through Muirhouse at anything less than 80mph......... has he still got his wheels ?
Old 15 November 2005, 01:51 PM
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PMSL. I did suggest he used that line in his defense. As long as he got out with his life, he was happy
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