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Old 11 March 2005, 11:56 AM
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Question Helicopter license

Iv'e been told it will cost approx £15000 to get a helicopter license, but do'es anyone know if you need to have a fixed wing license first, or what the cost's to keep your license valid are? I.E. how many hour's flying time you need to do each year, to maitain your license? And rough cost's of renting a modest helicopter plus fuel price's.
Old 11 March 2005, 12:38 PM
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Try Oxford Aviation mate, they're very very good with this kind of thing, have courses and the like, http://www.oxfordaviation.net/, thinking of going there myself to do the commercial airline course, the facilities are top notch,

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Originally Posted by scoobys20mgh
Try Oxford Aviation mate, they're very very good with this kind of thing, have courses and the like, http://www.oxfordaviation.net/, thinking of going there myself to do the commercial airline course, the facilities are top notch,

Mike
I'll give that a try, thank's for the info. Shaun.
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Try these as well:
http://www.cambridgehelicopters.co.uk/
http://www.bristowtraining.com/
http://www.bristowhelicopters.com/
http://www.chc.ca/
http://www.heli.com/
http://www.ceg.org.uk/careers/defaul...c_L=26A&id=599
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Thank you.
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do a search on google there is an english site (sorry, can't remember which one) that runs helicopter license courses in florida for about half the price - including accommodation - worth a trawl to save 7-8k?
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See here

http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/art...510964,00.html

Might do it myself if I lived near an airfield.
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Originally Posted by DoctorWho
See here

http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/art...510964,00.html

Might do it myself if I lived near an airfield.
Thank's, what's happened to your tardis then? Would'nt have thought you would need a helicopter really!
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You need the fixed wing licence before you can do your helecopter licence.

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Old 11 March 2005, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
You need the fixed wing licence before you can do your helecopter licence.

Tony
That's a new one on me.

I'm only aware that you get a five hour dispensation on your PPL(H) if you have a PPL(A)
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Its cheaper to train in the States and I believe you need a fixed wing licence first. Its a very expensive hobby, an ex-boyfriend of mine owns one. I could get you a better idea of running costs if you need them.
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Further to my earlier post if you check out www.regalhelicopters.co.uk (sorry can't do the link bit!) they give a full breakdown of cost and for a ppl(H) you do not have to have ppl (a) according to them. They also do a mix between usa and england to reduce costs. When Mrs Noxid gets over the new STi I will be pursuading her to lie in the sun in florida whilst I disappear for 60 Hours!!!
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Originally Posted by ^Qwerty^
That's a new one on me.

I'm only aware that you get a five hour dispensation on your PPL(H) if you have a PPL(A)
Nope you need a fixed wing licence first.
I know this because i know 2 people who fly helecopters, one is in the Army Air Corps and the other is in the RAF (both had to pass their fixed wing pilot test first).

Tony
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Nope you need a fixed wing licence first.
I know this because i know 2 people who fly helecopters, one is in the Army Air Corps and the other is in the RAF (both had to pass their fixed wing pilot test first).

Tony
Armed Forces Pilots only do their fixed wing training first to see which type of Aircraft they would most be suited for! I know as I'm in the RAF. You do not need a fixed wing licence first, although it is helpful with the principles of Airmanship. It is alot harder to fly a helicopter. I've heard that it costs around £60,000 to get your helicopter licence!
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sunday times last weekend in the driving section...
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Nope you need a fixed wing licence first.
I know this because i know 2 people who fly helecopters, one is in the Army Air Corps and the other is in the RAF (both had to pass their fixed wing pilot test first).

Tony
RAF pilots need to get commissioned as an officer first and Army pilots need to be at least a Corporal first. IIRC I don't think either are requirements for a pilots licence in civvy street.
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You don't need a fixed wing license at all.

Also while flying in Florida is cheaper, you will probably turn out to be a much better pilot over here because of the weather and air traffic density.

http://www.cabairflyingschools.com/pplhrequirements.htm

is one of the more reputable places

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Old 11 March 2005, 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by noxid
do a search on google there is an english site (sorry, can't remember which one) that runs helicopter license courses in florida for about half the price - including accommodation - worth a trawl to save 7-8k?
Be aware, US Homeland Security will probably not let you enrol if you are of arab/moslem parentage

On a more serious not, a guy I used to work with did his PPL(A) here in the UK, then went to the US to do to both his PPL(H) and his commercial as back then, in the early 90's, it cost (including his travel & accomodation) roughly 2/3 of what it would have cost him here.

Oh, and good luck
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Military pilots do indeed need to do fixed wing first. I learned to fly a hateful little turd of an aeroplane called a Chipmunk before moving to the Bulldog - also fixed wing but at least blessed with being a product of the seventies rather than the forties - and only then got to move onto real flying.

I don't believe the requirement is the same as a civilian. But I do know that to get to the same point, qualifications-wise as I was at when the Queen stopped paying me to fly would cost a ludicrous amount of money

And no, my 7000 plus hours count for approximately stuff-all.

Ah well. Never believed in going back to a past life anyway...

SB
Old 11 March 2005, 08:33 PM
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[QUOTE=**************]LOL i flew them at school, they were a nightmare on take off good for loop the loop over Ramsgate though
Kin ell i went too school in Kent, did'nt have em at my school!
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You definately don't need to do fixed wing first, my cousin (TAFF-RA on here) did it about a year ago in Fresno California with Mazzei Flying School.

http://www.flymfs.com/privatehelo.html

It works out at £5k to £6k ish on the current exchange rate. You can get free accommodation there (and it's not bad) for the duration of your course if you share a flat with with another student.

I was tentatively pencilled in to do my fixed wing there this year but then my ******* work decided not to make me redundant.

The admissions adviser is Jerry Personius and he's a top bloke, give him a call and have a chat with him if you want more info. He used to fly F-4 Phantoms for the USAF and was based in the UK for a while.

Mazzei get plenty of Brits going over there for courses.
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Dont private Chopper pilots have to do a course on how to find a hillside or pylon to fly into ?

Helicopters, the only known predator to rich people.
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
Dont private Chopper pilots have to do a course on how to find a hillside or pylon to fly into ?

Helicopters, the only known predator to rich people.
Ooh that sound's like jealousness, but ure probably right.
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