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Old 15 December 2003, 01:51 PM
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PLEASE STOP

p.s. The bit where that suicide bomber went off and you saw the VIP get covered in guts and blood! Hmmm Gross
Old 15 December 2003, 02:00 PM
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Tacky Krap

When will these 2 retire for good. There is a new documentry soon that "Might" be good. Will cover training etc.

Old 15 December 2003, 02:01 PM
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did't think too much to it, just seemed a program to promote his company !
Was it me or was the guy in charge / owned the company, sat in front of the Jag not wearing a seatbelt ?

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Old 15 December 2003, 02:13 PM
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apparently they dont wear seatbelts because if there is an 'incident' it takes them longer to get out of the car/ protect the vip. strange thing to do but these guys obviously know what their doing.

if i remember rightly dianas bodyguard in paris wasnt wearing a seatbelt and thats why he survived, because he went through the windscreen of the car.
Old 15 December 2003, 03:09 PM
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The bit where the VIP get's covered in bodyparts was one of the best bits IMHO. The problem with a lot of these shows is that they glamourise violence and guns. It's good for people to see just what an explosive or high-powered rifle round can do to the human body.

Maybe then most people will realise it's not like playing a playstation game.

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Old 15 December 2003, 03:12 PM
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if i remember rightly dianas bodyguard in paris wasnt wearing a seatbelt and thats why he survived, because he went through the windscreen of the car.
Yes that's right he went through the windscreen and was safely decelerated by the tunnels concrete pillar! All of the dead reportedly were unbelted. Trevor Rees-Jones was belted and was protected by the S280's front-passenger air bag.

Did you consult your memory...or did you just make it up?
Old 15 December 2003, 07:23 PM
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i thought the programme was great, i'd recorded it and watched it at 10pm, got to sleep straight away thanks to them droning on and on and on and on and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Old 15 December 2003, 07:42 PM
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And what about the sunglasses...
Old 15 December 2003, 09:09 PM
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I thought it was a lot of tosh. Boys & their toys

No-ones life, and I mean no-one, is worth that much. Anyway, as shown in the many examples, the bodyguards are pretty slow to do their job when the $hit hits the fan for real.....all very well in theory.....

Old 15 December 2003, 09:52 PM
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V45 is correct ,the tunnell cameras apparently caught him belting up as they entered the tunnel,hence the conspiracy theory(i think he realised it was insane travelling at that speed through paris and decided to belt up).
Old 15 December 2003, 09:54 PM
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That "Mac" bloke (the one with the tash) looks a fecking hard *******.
IIRC he was one of the team who stormed the Iranian embassy.
Did you know that 80% of the SAS are Scots?
Old 15 December 2003, 10:57 PM
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yeh sorry about that last post it was the airbag youre right

got told it at work this morning whilst on the subject of it and believed it because i was a bit young to remember the specifics about the crash because i was about 10 at the time

but the top part is spot on.
Old 15 December 2003, 11:51 PM
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Luke, when is that on?

Oh, and Danny,

1. Yes he was.

2. Apparently so, ...and?
Old 16 December 2003, 11:38 PM
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Isn't "Mac" supposed to be the guy that always gets shown on tv on the balcony?

I think he was the guy putting the frame charge against the windows who then disappears behind the cloud of debris from the explosion.

John.
Old 17 December 2003, 07:48 PM
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is it just me who thinks its a bit irresponsible telling everyone how our special service teams operate on tv which is worldwide. shouldn't we keep these things to ourselves even if it does make for interesting viewing
Old 17 December 2003, 07:56 PM
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Aggree with the above, what a good way to show some half witted wannabe fundamentalist how to take out our state leaders/VIP's.

I enjoyed it though, interesting enough, but maybe a bit glamourised.
Old 17 December 2003, 08:16 PM
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Speaking from first hand experience...

I would say that the programme last night was
1. A bit 'guns and ammo' but they had to make it over the top entertaining television for joe public. Obviously people are heavily armed when they work in Iraq and the like.
2. They didn't really give much away. They didn't go into any detail and missed quite a bit out, as there is alot more to it than that. Especially in the area of surveillance which is key

Best wishes
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P.S. I do wish they would stop putting these programmes on. It is getting really tedious/ a cliche
Old 17 December 2003, 08:48 PM
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Speaking from first hand experience...
...enlighten us then

I've had quite a bit of "first hand experience" myself, most of it involved keeping my little brother out of trouble at school

Old 17 December 2003, 09:13 PM
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Sorry m8 that's it from a personal point of view.

Back to the TV programme
All these programmes are a bit over the top. I suppose it is just entertainment at the end of the day.

To give them credit they did say that CP work can be very boring and also touched on the extensive planning required. But that don't make good TV. Much was missed out and there was too much emphasis on guns.

People should view it as entertainment based around some of the facts of what the job entails.

Steve
Old 18 December 2003, 12:39 AM
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lol- the security camera on the tunnel was of suffcient quality to show him belting up as they went in at 80+mph?????

is this the oliver stone post? no magic bullets where there?

T
Old 18 December 2003, 12:47 AM
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It's all just common sense. Nothing to it. The tv program glamourised it a lot, as if it was some complex procedure only capable of being done by SAS.

If you were transporting someone that important in the UK, you would not be doing it by public road through towns etc, so really, it was all a lot of nonsense.

My original statement still stands, no-one is worth going to all that effort to protect.....

[Edited by imlach - 12/18/2003 12:47:37 AM]
Old 18 December 2003, 07:59 AM
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And they made no use of locl police.


Diana Death was due to her poor security. They lost control. The driver should have been told to drive with more care.Simple.

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