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Old 04 August 2003, 09:45 AM
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your road system is a complete f***up.

Left St Tropez at 6.00am on Thursday. Arrived Calais (780 miles) at 5.30 on Thursday evening.

Left Dover at 11.00 am on Friday. Arrived M25 (60 miles) at 12.30

Continued on M25 to M1 (50 miles) Arrived M1 at 4.00pm

Gave up after crawling at 30 MPH to Birmingham and then coming to a complete standstill for 30 minutes.

Resumed journey at midnight in the hope that there would be no traffic. STILL got held up in roadworks taking 8 hours to complete the last 250 miles. (Last 120 miles from Penrith to Cairnryan took 2 hours)

You guys should all really consider getting bicycles
Old 04 August 2003, 11:03 AM
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Gave up after crawling at 30 MPH to Birmingham
If I were you, I would have stuck with using the car.
Old 04 August 2003, 11:09 AM
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thats why we are thinking of going to france





lifes to short to wait in traffic halve the time
Old 04 August 2003, 11:23 AM
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Our roads are being ruined by "traffic calming". It's all part of a ploy to cause congestion in order to justify charging.
Old 04 August 2003, 11:34 AM
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Shh!!

Don't tell the people here - they might want to try & find some empty roads - like in Ireland

& 2 hours from Carlisle to Stranraer?

Pah! Used to take me just over the hour from Carlisle & that was with the wiggly roads
Old 04 August 2003, 11:47 AM
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Yep, when you drive in France it really makes you realise that it's 5 times the size of the UK, with the same number of cars ...
Old 04 August 2003, 12:02 PM
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There are roads other than Motorways and you can get along pretty swiftly on those.
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Too true - local knowledge is a winner.

For a starter for ten, avoid the M6 through Birmingham unless it's past midnight and before 4am!
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PTMW - I thought 120 miles in 2 hours was quite good in a 4 ton motorhome that doesn't go above 80.

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4 ton motorhome
Is that with or without the duty frees?
Old 04 August 2003, 12:30 PM
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3.6 ton 'dry' weight. 4 with all the junk you take on holidays. Probably about 6 if you consider we spent a couple of days in the tasting caves in Chateauneuf-da-Pape sampling and buying France's finest, followed by quick trolley dash around the Eastender in Calais
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