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Old 14 July 2003, 03:18 PM
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What happens then

Im dying to know what happens but dont have enough time to read the books, also 6 months is to long to wait

So someone fill me in

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Old 14 July 2003, 03:26 PM
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Most live happily ever after. I think.

S3x scene with Frodo and Gandalf.

Mourdor becomes a trendy wine bar.

Sauron becomes a superstar DJ and plays regular sets in Bag End after bagging off with the evil woman elf.

Smegel gets a job at a scooby specialist and does dodgy oil servicing.
Old 14 July 2003, 03:32 PM
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What about the bloke with the beard + sword( cant remember his name and doesnt really narrow it down.)

Should have surgested your version to the director
Old 14 July 2003, 03:34 PM
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ROFL

big fight lots of ppl die,

Frodo, sam and smeagle take the secret back route into mordor, smeagle has offered to help frodo as he took of the magic rope from his ankle that the elves gave him (major part of story brushed over in film)

smeagle betrays the hobbits to a nasty spider that poisons frodo and sam becomes the ring bearer

they get to the firey pit, big fight blah blah sauron gets his ring as he puts it on smeagle jumps at him bitting his finger off and smeagle the ring and sauron plunge into the "liquid hot magma"!

the few left alive live happily ever after apart from Frodo who is taumented for the rest of his days by what has happened to him

or did i dream all this?
Old 14 July 2003, 03:34 PM
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He's the bar manager of Mourdor.
Old 14 July 2003, 03:36 PM
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3 largish bits you missed - and lets hope that bugger Peter Jackson doesn't!

- Paths of the dead
- Battle of the Pelanor
- Scourging of the Shire
Old 14 July 2003, 03:42 PM
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ooooooooooh sounds quality

sauron looked awesome in the 1st one
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Old 14 July 2003, 03:58 PM
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- Paths of the dead
- Battle of the Pelanor
- Scourging of the Shire

"big fight lots of ppl die"

Old 14 July 2003, 04:06 PM
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smeagol bites frodo's finger as frodo tries to put ring on not sauron

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Old 14 July 2003, 04:10 PM
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its been 20 years since i read it

theres a finger a ring a smeagle and some lava, that will do me lol
Old 14 July 2003, 04:13 PM
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Do they focus on the after end bit where the hobbits return to Bag End and sort that out?
Oh no of course they wouldn't, as if the storyline has to be stuck to.

So much is missed in the first two films, lots of important stuff. Why bother including imprtant bits in the third FFS? I am surprised they bothered basing it on LOTR, they may as well have just written another book. I won't start though, I shall leave my soapbox in the corner.

Chelle.

(Avid LOTR reader )

[Edited by Little Miss WRX - 7/14/2003 4:15:06 PM]
Old 14 July 2003, 04:15 PM
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Is there a follow on book then?

As LOTR didnt start with the LOTR book 1 did it? Hobbit wasnt it

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Old 14 July 2003, 04:16 PM
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Nick

Sorry didn't mean to sound off

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Old 14 July 2003, 04:20 PM
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Chelle

It's a FILM in no way is it going to be able to match the book page by page, what it does do though is tell the story in a well thought out way which doesn't remove to much from books. It also gets people interested who may of thought 1100 pages i can't be bothered with that, then see the films and decide to read the books.

Si

Edit coz of unbelievably typing

[Edited by Mr.Cookie - 7/14/2003 4:25:17 PM]
Old 14 July 2003, 04:23 PM
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Si

Simmarilion (sp?) basically the bible of middle earth, but to cut it short biblo goes over the seas with the elves to live out his days, frodo follows after then sam after that as they were all ring bearers if only briefly.

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Old 14 July 2003, 04:26 PM
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They changed to much for my liking

Spoilt alot of the plot to be honest
Old 14 July 2003, 04:31 PM
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there's some bits i don't like main one is regards two towers when faromir captures them (frodo, sam, gollum) and of they go for a fight er when did that happen, but it is a film and was decided i suppose that it needed a fight

Si
Old 14 July 2003, 04:36 PM
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I understand that it is never going to follow the book, but they have changed needless things and omitted some scenes that really should have been included.

The flight to the ford FFS, that was completely re-written!!!!!

A new range of books came out with styling from the film, just more money coming in for the relevant people. IT makes money, there's nothing more to it. I just don't like to see something as great as LOTR hauled over the shallow coals of money grabbers.
Old 14 July 2003, 05:02 PM
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Chelle things need to make money otherwise they don't get made (excluding a few recent films ) i for one have been amazed at how well it has been done and take my hat off to fran walsh and peter jackson, also can't find fault in any of the actor but thats my opinion

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Old 14 July 2003, 05:07 PM
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Looking at it solely as a film, it is stunning and certainly rakes in the cash.

Unfortunately I happen to have read the book several times and am a big fan of Tolkein's writing.

The actors are fairly close to how I imagined them and Middle Earth is definitely brought to life!
Old 14 July 2003, 05:17 PM
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FWIW, I'm a fan of the books and think the film is better than I could possibly have hoped.

Chelle, let it go... Can u imagine how they could make a better film, 'cos I can't

Typical Whining Aussie
Old 14 July 2003, 05:36 PM
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You don't have time to read the book, but you can't wait 6 months. The book is easy to read in 6 months, unless your reading at the level where you'd consider "The Cat in the Hat" challenging

Regarding Peter Jackson changing the plot - It was commercially necessary as a sacrafice to the makers of toys/lunch boxes/breakfast cereals. I hate the alterations (specifically the missing 17 years in the Shire, and the complete omission of Glorfindel, and in film 2 the whole "Aragorn falls off a cliff" bit - why?), but I understand why they were made.

Finally, I think Hans Zimmer would have written a better score than Howard Shore did. Not bad music, but not as good as it could have been.
Old 14 July 2003, 06:10 PM
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Chelle

I read the books roughly once a year but i look at them as two different entities

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Old 14 July 2003, 06:23 PM
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Thats nothing.....

got a copy of piglets big adventure....


the trilergy continues into the woods

bouncy bouncy
Old 14 July 2003, 06:23 PM
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I wanted to see Tom Bambadildo.

When I read that post about Smeagol biting Sauron's finger off I thought '****, I must have been reading the last few chapters so fast I totally lost the plot! '.
theres a finger a ring a smeagle and some lava, that will do me
ROFL
Old 14 July 2003, 06:36 PM
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I wanted to see Tom Bambadildo.
Damn when did the XXX version come out, can't believe i missed that

Si
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Old 14 July 2003, 08:31 PM
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The Lord Of The Rings: The Two Towers - Collector's Box Set

Due for release on 18/11/2003

Discs 1 & 2 (The Feature): A new version of the second installment in the epic trilogy! The film includes over 32 minutes PAL of never-before-seen footage incorporated into the film, made especially for this release / Four audio commentaries by director and writers, the design team the production team and the cast featuring more than 30 participants including Peter Jackson, Elijah Wood, Sean Astin, Orlando Bloom and Academy Award® winners Richard Taylor, Howard Shore, Randy Cook…and many more
Disc 3: Adapting the book into a screenplay & planning the film / Designing and inspiration for locations in Middle-earth / Storyboards to pre-visualisation / Weta Workshop visit – See sculptors in action as they create the weapons, armor, creatures and miniatures from the film / Atlas of Middle-earth: Tracing the journey of the Fellowship / An interactive map of New Zealand highlighting the location scouting process / Galleries of art and slideshows with commentaries by the artists / And much more!
Disc 4: Sending actors to battle – preparation for sword fighting / Principal photography: Stories from the set / Digital effects including motion capture and “Massive” (a program to create armies of Orcs) / “Bigatures” – A close-up look at the detailed miniatures used in the film / Galleries of behind-the-scenes photographs and personal cast photos / Post-production – editing it all together / Sound design demonstration
Collectible Gollum polystone statue created by Sideshow Weta
Bonus DVD on the Weta Workshop and how the Gollum statue was created, featuring interviews with Peter Jackson, Richard Taylor, the cast and more!
A printed companion piece showing how Gollum evolved from pencil sketch to sculpted maquette to digital character
Old 14 July 2003, 08:44 PM
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fwiw, scouring of the shire is NOT in ROTK. Which is a shame.

I did actually sit down and read the three books, and it was a pretty good story.

Am intruiged to see how PJ pans out the final chapter.
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