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Old 18 May 2003, 10:00 PM
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I've been having a go at the 2000m rowing challenge down at the gym. Jolly old Concept2 rowers, the rotary wheel lever is set to level 5.

My first attempt as a test I clocked 7.35.5 and I improved this on Friday to 7.17.8. Nice improvement but I'm still a country mile behind the bloke who is number 1 in the blue 'team' I'm in.

He's top with 6.40.x! 20 pence says he's much fitter than me to start with.

Any good tips to improve my technique a bit? Is it best to row with a narrow grip and your arms over the top of your knees or to the sides with a wider grip? Sit tall with a stiff back?

I also start to get blisters on my palm just beneath the base of my index fingers. Have to try some gloves I think.

Oh, if you row, what sort of time for 2000m do you clock?

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Old 18 May 2003, 10:03 PM
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You can see famous people's times on the concept2 website.....Steve Redgrave etc. Think they're times for 2000m are around 5m40s.

I'm still in the 7 minute league myself when in the garage pounding away at it, but my mate rows quite seriously and went to the world champs and did a 6m 12s.

Old 18 May 2003, 10:23 PM
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that is why outboard motors were invented !!!


Old 18 May 2003, 10:42 PM
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used to row a lot when I was younger - get a rower to look at your technique on the machine directly - it makes a massive difference to your power output - most non rowers have absolutely appalling technique because they try too hard to use their arms (all power is in the legs) - when driving - go legs THEN body THEN arms - go forward in reverse. I used to be able to clock it at about 6 min 20 seconds. miserable piece of ****e that thing is, there is no more uncomfortable way to exercise - good for you though
Old 18 May 2003, 10:45 PM
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My record on the Concept II for a 1000m is 3:19.

Felt sick afterwards and it spoilt the redt of my training session.

I usually do a 3:40 ish 1000m to warm up.
Old 18 May 2003, 11:03 PM
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Cheers so far guys...

LMAO at Barge

5.40 for 2000 I'd be leaving in an ambulance!

Londonpaul - interesting that. My forearms ached lots when I finished my 2nd attempt but my legs were fine - I jumped on a bike and did 20 mins at a good pace afterward. My legs are pretty strong (in my book at least!), I can leg press (on a machine) 190kgs with ease (3 x 15 reps). Will have to try pushing more with the legs.

Agreed it's painful though!
Old 18 May 2003, 11:06 PM
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The amazing thing about 5m40s is that for 1000m, that'd be 2m50s,
and therefore for 500m pace, it'd be 1m25s.....try pulling that even
for 500m!!!

It's quite hard, and I find I move the machine around trying to pull that rate!!!
Old 18 May 2003, 11:29 PM
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One of the blokes I went to university with could split 1 min 32 sec for 500 metres for HALF AN HOUR. quite terrifying. went on to row for england he did - held the world 2 1/2 K concept 2 record for a while back in the late 80s
Old 18 May 2003, 11:48 PM
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It's quite hard, and I find I move the machine around trying to pull that rate!!!
I do too - maybe it's part down to my crappy technique, but anything sub 1'40 (or so) and it starts to bounce.
Old 19 May 2003, 10:20 AM
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when in good shape i sub 6mins for 2000.....at the minute i am 20stone and 33% bodyfat but could still sub 6.30 and split at 1.20 for 500 without to much bother.....its all technique
Old 19 May 2003, 10:44 AM
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Errr....you could do a 1m20s for 500m with not much bother??????

According to the Concept2 ranking pages, the FASTEST times for 500m seem to be 1m19s - therefore I can't see how it'd be "not much bother" if the fastest in the world can only reach 1m19s!!
Old 19 May 2003, 10:46 AM
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Here's the current 2000m world records :

Junior 12 Rob Francis GBR 7:15.5 1999
13-18 Karsten Brodowski GER 5:52.7 2003
13-18 Lwt Rasmus Quist DNK 6:16.1 1998
19-29 Rob Waddell NZL 5:38.3 1999
19-29 Lwt Eskild Ebbesen DNK 6:03.2 1998
30-39 Matthias Siejkowski GER 5:37.0 2001
30-39 Lwt Eskild Ebbesen DNK 6:08.7 2002
40-49 Pertti Karpinnen FIN 5:52.0 1996
40-49 Lwt Michael Caviston USA 6:18.2 2002
50-59 Andy Ripley GBR 6:07.7 1998
50-59 Lwt Rich Cureton USA 6:30.0 2003
60-69 Noel Frost GBR 6:31.4 1999
60-69 Lwt Lyle Parker AUS 6:37.7 2001
70-79 Stephen Rounds USA 7:02.6 1999
70-79 Lwt Herbert Leah GBR 7:13.9 1998
80-89 Joe Clinard USA 8:03.5 1998
80-89 Lwt James Wallace USA 8:13.8 2002
90-99 Hans de Wiljes NED 12:17.5 2002
90-99 Lwt John Hodgson GBR 9:25.8 2002
Old 19 May 2003, 11:40 AM
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So some skinny 12 year kid old beats my best time? Gah!
Old 19 May 2003, 11:49 AM
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More worrying, it's the 70-79 year olds that also beat your time :-)
Old 19 May 2003, 01:49 PM
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imlach....i am one of the fastest in the world.
Old 19 May 2003, 01:56 PM
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Tiggs - ok.
:-)

Are you famous?
Old 19 May 2003, 02:00 PM
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my mate nearly killed himself in LAFitness doing this..lol.

i was bright red, when he came back to work, and felt like cr4p

haha made me laugh though!!!

BB
Old 19 May 2003, 02:14 PM
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might give this a go tonight, see how i get on. I normally run or get on the life rower thingy (ski machine i call it)
Old 19 May 2003, 02:15 PM
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In answer to the question..

yes - me and the misses are always rowing

Old 19 May 2003, 05:10 PM
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imlach, lol- no, not very famous at all!

i used to work in a gym where the indoor champs where held....i had a go on a concept while there was a lunch break and did a time that would have put me well up the field (i wasnt far of greg searls time which was funny as he was dressed in a union jack leotard and i looked like a tramp that had wandered in!)

anyway- after that i spoke to a few clubs but discovered that to be a proper rower you have to go on the water and get wet...so i never bothered.

now i just like going to my local gym when they have row comps on and destroying the times of all the "fit" lads!

went to a gym over xmas- my wife was joining- i just went along to look round- they had a row thing going on (500m sprints)

got chatting with the blokes and had a little bet that i could beat the best time so far (1.34)....so i put down my twix i was chompping on, got on it in my jeans and span my arms round "jane fonda styleeee" for a warm up. 1.28 later i got of and went home

wife very embaressed....thought i was an arrogant to55er

T
Old 20 May 2003, 02:25 PM
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I have rowed for about the last 9 years....although I don't really any more. The best 2000m time I had last year was 6:36, in the lightweight category (crew average of under 70 kg)....& I was in the Scotland squad..
Have to say, the 2k was never the most enjoyable of experiences.]
Try a 5000m one. . They're even worse. I think I got about 17:30. World record is in the 15s...
Old 20 May 2003, 03:24 PM
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LOL @ Tiggs, you sounds like someone's embarrassing Dad who's still got a bit of the ol' magic left
Old 20 May 2003, 04:54 PM
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less of the 'ol, im 29.....although if my kids sports days ever put a rower out i'd happily make them wish i wasnt their daddy!
Old 23 May 2003, 07:10 PM
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respect!
Old 24 May 2003, 10:14 PM
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oh, .... so 10:05 for 2000m doesn't cut it?

hey ho.
Old 25 May 2003, 06:07 PM
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Have been rowing when in school still. And been training a bit on a machine when i was in a gym ten years ago. Can't remember my times but they were about the same as the really big guys. On one occasion I was breathing so hard and loud all gym must have thought there's a sh@ggin' going on

The bit about apalling techniques on this machine is so true. The legs and the back do the actual work.
Old 26 May 2003, 10:19 AM
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"The legs and the back do the actual work. "

you do need to hold on to it though.
Old 26 May 2003, 08:27 PM
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That's right of course That's why you do get blisters on your fingers.
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