Philip Attaway

Been going to the gym now for a while but only started rowing a few weeks ago.

Got my best time today for 2000m on level 10.

6mins 51.5secs

Post your times and spur me on

Phil (Oarsome rower )

Tiggs

low 5.50's

T (more Oarsome than you )

Philip Attaway

**** I better get training!

That would make you number one on the Concept2.com rankings

Philip Attaway

ifact checking the site, that would make you indoor rowing champion.

Do I believe you hmmm

Tiggs

no it wouldnt.....if i did that time today it would but there are plenty of people under 6 in the last few years...i am one of them.

T

Franx

Very good

My best is 6.36

How heavy are you, if you don't mind me asking

Don't put it on level 10 though - if you're around 70-80kg, 4-5 is sufficient, and you'll get a far better time.

Franx (slightly less oarsome than Tiggs, but still up there....)

imlach

...yes, and don't believe all the rubbish people say about "I can do this time on 10 so I'm great".

As true C2 users know, the level setting is not a "difficulty setting", but a drag setting. More drag, you have to pull harder less often. Less drag, you have to pull less, but more often. Same energy used in both.

Tiggs

most of the big people row on 10 or near to it for that reason....at 20 stone and 6ft 6 i could pull hard but kept my stroke rate down.

i'd avoid level 4-5 unless you are a dwarf, i find it like trying to pedal downhill at 60mph!

philc

hey! I'm not a dwarf, but am quite happy on level 4 (not that I've got anything against dwarves .... one of my best friends is a dwarf; well, if I knew any dwarves he would be)

and also sounds like taking 4:50 to row 1000 metres doesn't cut it (6' 2 and weigh 78kgs)

oh well

John STI 8

My best was 6.35, or 8,450m in 30 mins. I used to row on level 4/5, I just chose a setting that felt the most natural. Simple fact is, as imlach says, you expend the same energy doing 2k no-matter what the drag setting, so just choose where you're most comfortable. J

Tiggs

yep...its like moving a tonne of earth....do you shift 1000 bags at Xkg or 300 at Ykg.

still a tonne of earth but i cant shift 1000 of anything!

Philip Attaway

I am 6'2 and 89kg. (14 stone)

I started rowing on level 6 but put it up to 10 as I was getting chain slap!

They are doing a rowing race at my gym at the end of September. Any one done one? Will the level be set for all rowers do you think or will it be up to each individual to choose?

Thing is I am actually not that fit so I must have room for a lot of improvement

Not so oarsome Phil

imlach

It's free for each individual to choose. There is nothing to be gained from being on 1 or 10. It is down to your own personal preference.

Tiggs

some gyms will set a level for you.....they are retards but it does happen at some small indoor races.

the "there is nothing to gain" issue is not quite right as for an individual there is lots to gain from the right setting. There is no way i could go sub 6 on level 1 (in fact i tried it once on 5 and was so far off the pace i gave up)

So while it only affects drag the right drag will make a difference to the individual.

T

imlach

Agreed - of course everyone has their own preference and many heavyweights would struggle on 1 just as lightweights would struggle on 10.

What I meant was that a level should not be fixed at competition, as it makes no difference if one guy is on 8, another another is on 10. They're both pulling the same amount overall. Neither has an advantage over the other.

Tiggs

yep...the reason that gyms set a level is they belive it will level the field.....which in a sense it does. If i row against a fast little guy on level 1 he has more chance of beating me (although not much chance) but to do this is to deprive people of their natural advantage (be it size, power, speed) which is as daft as making the hoop higher for Shaq because hes tall.

John STI 8

Is there a Scoobynet concept 2 challenge looming? J

Philip Attaway

not if Tiggs can do it in 5.50

GrantyBoy

level 4 is what you should be using. This is the same amount of drag that rowing boat get.

I used to row.

imlach

Well, my friend is a serious amateur rower on water, and when he goes to the C2 Nationals & Worlds, he uses level 7 or 8.

John STI 8

We can always handicap Tiggs. J

Tiggs

i could row backwards and still beat you

John STI 8

What's your 10k time like Tiggs? Would we stand a chance then?

J

Tiggs

never rowed further than 2k in one go...no idea? 5.55 X 5?

Alan C

Phil... great timing for this thread!

Just got permission from 'the boss' to buy one... I did a lot of gym work on the C2 when i was in the RAF... but getting time for the Gym now is difficult.. so I've nagged a bit and I'll be ordering a new one on Monday..

The Model D has the new PM3 computer as standard so it will allow me to race online... I'm way off the standard I used to be, but a few months and I'll be mid 6's again for the 2k.. (plus a few stone lighter thank god)

The training software & online racing should definately help with the training and save me getting board in the dining room..

Question is.. where the hell could I buy a decent refurbished model if I want to save a few quid?

Anyone else here got a home machine?

Tiggs.. James Cracknell managed 5:49.3 How come we didn't see you in the Olympics?

Tiggs

alan,

indoor rowing is not an olympic sport.

i can also hit 95% from the free throw line.....wont get me in the NBA though!

Philip Attaway

Alan

My bro in law is also after a machine.

E-bay has quite a few come up but he says they often go for silly money and you might as well buy a new one.

Doubt there are any Model D's though.

I would love one if I had the space. No garage

John STI 8

a sub 30min 10k would be something to behold. J

WRX Jase

Not sure how this compares to 5:50 for 2K (OK I am sure, it's pretty poor but I'll plead ignorance)

Used to row 20-mins 3 - 4 times a week level 10 as part of a general workout - best was 4951M. Was killing myself trying to do 5K in 20-mins but I've given up on that. Getting old and fat instead (knee trouble). Much more fun.

imlach

That pace would equate to 8m04s for 2000m.
(btw, I'll assume you've read the whole thread, but level 10 doesn't mean you were setting the machine to the "physically challenging" setting )