Pete Croney

This 747 pilot must be fighting some very serious cross wind, but just how much skill is that??????

http://a4.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/ED-uPuH...%20Landing.mpg

bros2

[Edited by bros2 - 7/2/2003 5:23:55 PM]

bigJoe

I think it’s all him (or her), check the windsock on the right of the runway, looks like 15< knots (and the "glassy" water)

As a guess I think he overshot the turn at Tai Kak (HK’s old airport)

Great ad for Korean Air though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pete Croney

Well spotted BigJoe

Badger Stuffer

Link doesn't work.......

Andy Tang

iTrader: (3)

I think in all the time the airport was open, only one commercial airline ended up in the harbour!!!

BTW it was an Air China plane!

Andy Tang

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If the link doesn't work by just clicking it, then try right clicking it and doing a 'save as..'

WISHING

Wouldnt say that what due to wind !!!!!
That windsock isnt full.

Lucky landing !

Badger Stuffer

Just showed that to my boss and his next door neighbour is a pilot and he remembers being told about it.

There was no wind. Apparently the pilot just totaly fecked up the landing and normal procedure for it would be to go to full throttle and pull up and then circle for another apprach.

The pilot in question was severely repremanded for it and suspended.

He caused major damage to the landing gear on the plane due to the forces of landing like he did.

[Edited by Badger Stuffer - 4/29/2003 11:20:01 AM]

bigJoe

BS is spot on, this guy was very lucky,

This link is for the approach plate here (print it out)

If you can read these you’ll know why Tai Kak can be a problematic approach

If not I’ll try and explain,

On the plan view (top) you’ll see the long arrow going from left to right on the right of this is the runway (at most airport these are aligned) the arrow is the ILS beam (instrument landing system) – it’s the radar beam that guides the aircraft in left & right and up & down for landing

Now notice the spot heights at the top left and right of the chart (these are in feet), the airport is almost at sea level – this is why you can’t have a “straight in” procedure (a usual approach profile is about 3 degrees)

The most important part though, is where the MM (called a middle marker) is, (at the end of the arrow) this is where the approach transforms from being ILS guided approach to being flown visually, you have to align yourself with the runway (in a short distance). If you are not within tolerances (wrong config, speed, height, lateral deviation) you must abort the landing (this also counts anywhere on the approach) before the turn

It would seem this guy chose to continue and tried to wrestle the A/C down

D’oh

Dream Weaver

Another one here:

http://membres.lycos.fr/alexisixela0...%20Landing.mpg

P1Fanatic

Not being picky but isnt it Kai Tak?

Simon.

Pete Croney

From the plate it definitely looks like he was aligning to 136 for a missed approach and then getitdownitis took over. That's quite a few tons of aircraft with very little airspeed left after those turns.

Pete Croney

Joe

What do you fly?

pilotman

Pete,

thats is excellent !!!

Leslie

I have done the bent beam approach a few times into Kai Tak and remember that if you did overshoot the centreline on the final line-up there was a small hill with a big chequer board on it just past the place where you should be turning. Delaying the turn would put you very close to that hill if you were on the correct glide-path. At that point you should be visual with the ground anyway. If you were late with the turn there was not a lot of time left to line a big aircraft up properly on final approach.

We all used to look forward to doing that approach since it was the nearest you could get to being a bit of a hooligan legally

Les

bigJoe

P1 - yea I think you are right

Pete - I fly Cessna’s and pipers, but I did my IR in a Duchess at Wycombe

Do you fly, if so what?

Leslie - wow, that must have been so cool (don't worry i'm not really 15)

How many other pilots are there on SN?

P1Fanatic

Hmmm Ive flown to Kai Tak several times (as a passenger) as I used to live in HK for three years. And I never recall approaches like that one. You often heard of planes clipping buildings aerials towers etc and one did run off the end into the harbour.

Simon.

Hos

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andym172

I've just shown that clip to an RAF fighter pilot, his reply - 'too easy! '

Andy.

supertouring

That far left hand engine (you flying types will probably have a more technical name for it) appears to come VERY close to the ground at the point the first wheel hits the runway! I guess knocking it on the ground would not have done it much good?

Pete Croney

bigJoe

I fly a flexwing microlight. Recently qualified and really enjoying it

RoadrunnerV2

This weekend I will fly to Kai Tak airport and land the sucker whilst ignoring traffic control and eating pizza in one hand and woofed down 5 stella's................. Oh and I will enable 'crash landing' on Microsoft flight simulator

Leslie

Fighter pilots are like that Andy, full of P&W

Put him in a big machine with loads of inertia where you have to think a long way ahead and he would run out of underpants

Pete, I dont think I would have the nerve to fly a microlight!

Roadrunner, its the Stella's that will make it all possible

Edited to say to Supertouring that I would call it the far left hand engine

Les

[Edited by Leslie - 4/30/2003 11:59:40 AM]

Diesel

Its such a shame that the links seems dead and 'save as' also draws a blank! Would love to see it. Q - how do you keep a fool in suspense? A - I'll tell you later! Boom boom

Badger Stuffer

Diesel......UHM.



Enjoy.

Diesel

Thanks mate for the mail! Incredible! Also, I am jumping on one of those beasties to cross the pond in 3 hours with a thunderstorm raging at the mo - GULP!!!

Dougster

Second link worked for me. Is the first one different?

I would be happy of a mail if it is!!

Thanks

supertouring

"far left hand engine" - would appear that I am a natural at this flying game!

"Chocks away ginger!"

Leslie