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Old 25 February 2003, 03:51 PM
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...on other planets in this little ol universe?

What do you think? or possibly know?

Me? well, I know there IS probably life on other planets, now, I'm NOT talking humanoid life here, not little gre(en)y chaps, but single cell amoebas (sp?), which maybe, one-day might evolve to something more.

As for humaniod life, hmm, well, not sure, part of me thinks, "hey, cool!" other part things "Danger Will Robinson! Danger!" as in **** probes and all that stuff.

hmm, think I've watched too much X-Files and Taken
Old 25 February 2003, 03:53 PM
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No Markus you are just wanting attention now find your rock and go back under it!
Old 25 February 2003, 03:54 PM
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Markus, go buy a Rubik Cube
Old 25 February 2003, 03:56 PM
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I believe that Atlantis existed, but i'm going to stop there cause if i continue to say what else i believe on the subject, i'm definately gonna need my flame suit....
Old 25 February 2003, 03:57 PM
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From a statistical POV, it would be ignorant to suppose that there isnt any life on other planets. But it could be very far away LOL
Old 25 February 2003, 04:11 PM
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Far away? Definitely. Sadly, it's probably all so far away that we'll never make contact.

Suppose for a moment, though, that there is a planet with alien life on it nearby. What should we expect? Three possibilites spring to mind:

- slime. Single-celled organisms are the simplest configuration, so it stands to reason that they're also the most common. Earth had slime on it well before anything more complex appeared.

- monsters. As soon as the slime begins to evolve, the 'survival of the fittest' rule applies. On any planet, competition for resources would encourage evolution, just as it does on Earth.

- intelligent beings with technology so far advanced as to be unrecognisable to us. The 'Star Trek' model of numerous races all at a similar stage in technological development ignores the fact that technology evolves vastly more quickly than the creatures that develop it. The chance of a nearby alien race trading spaceship designs with us are vanishingly small - they'll either have nothing more sophisticated than rocks to throw at each other, or they'll have discovered what happens when everything that can be invented, has been. How dull!

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Old 25 February 2003, 04:21 PM
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On the one hand, yes, because of the probabilities involved.
On the other hand, no, beacause of the anthropic principle (i.e. the universe is the way we see it only because if it wasn't, we wouldn't be here to see it).
Old 25 February 2003, 04:27 PM
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Tell Merril to swing away..
Old 25 February 2003, 04:41 PM
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If we're the only ones in the Universe, seems like an awful waste of space !
Old 25 February 2003, 09:13 PM
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XT have you read "fingerprints of the gods"?
Old 25 February 2003, 09:15 PM
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I'm interested in house prices...
Old 25 February 2003, 09:19 PM
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Maybe i have read it and i don't know it, cause most of the books i have read were translated in Greek.
Old 25 February 2003, 09:25 PM
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0712679065/ref=sr_aps_books_1_1/026-1309415-5354055

This is a follow up (didn't know there was one). He has some contraversial ideas about the history of civilisation. Atlantis plays a big role in his ideas. Very interesting perspective.
Old 25 February 2003, 09:45 PM
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The Greek 'Mythology' as they taught us to call it(i am a Christian btw) describes Atlantis as a very important part of the creation of our world. And to be honest some facts of the Greek Mythology is much easier to accept than some other 'ideas'.

BTW, this book looks interesting, i may order it. What are your views on it?
Old 25 February 2003, 10:08 PM
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See here for the original: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0517887290/002-9133137-8661650?vi=glance

If you do a search in amazon.co.uk they have used copies of this book, but not new by the look of things. I can't work out if the other book is a follow up or a revised edition, looks revised going on page No's 578(old) vs 764(new). I can thoroughly recommend this book, his ideas seem well researched and very convincing. He certainly sheds light on a whole new idea of where civilisation has come from. Many critics try to debunk him, but then if his ideas are true their whole lifes work will be ruined.
Old 25 February 2003, 10:09 PM
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If there is other life out there, I wonder if they hate Man United too???

LOL.
Old 25 February 2003, 10:10 PM
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many bright people were shut up because their ideas, despite being right, came in contrast with everything else believed by the rest of the people.....
Old 25 February 2003, 10:11 PM
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So true, many keep their contraversial ideas to themselves completely.
Old 25 February 2003, 10:15 PM
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There is life somewhere else. Gotta believe we arent the only ones.
Old 25 February 2003, 10:23 PM
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Maybe we come from the other ones.....just read a book about the things that were available in Atlantis...
Old 25 February 2003, 10:27 PM
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Maybe we are going through an incubation period for the 'others', just pawns in their much bigger picture (remember hitchhikers guide the the galaxy )
Old 25 February 2003, 10:40 PM
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remember we are on a planet that revolves round an ordinary G type star in a remote arm of a non descript spiral galaxy that we call the milky way. there are roughly 100 billion stars in our galaxy and it is by no means the biggest. our galaxy is part of a small group of galaxies in the local virgo cluster which in turn makes up part of the local supercluster. now these galaxies all have 1000s of billions of stars and i refuse to believe that the earth is the only liveable planet that revolves round a star that is just the right distance away, just the right temparature, has all the right elements etc etc.

law of averages, there has to be more than one planet in the whole universe capable of sustaining life and IMHO thinking that we are the only ones here i feel is a bit presumptuous.

cheers

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Old 25 February 2003, 10:51 PM
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The Greek 'Mythology' as they taught us to call it(i am a Christian btw) describes Atlantis as a very important part of the creation of our world. And to be honest some facts of the Greek Mythology is much easier to accept than some other 'ideas'.
even tolkien has an atlantis myth in his story of "the drowning of Adunie" (Numenor).

cheers

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Old 26 February 2003, 08:29 AM
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We've already detected planets orbiting other stars (by indirect methods so far). And various amino acids (building blocks for life) have been found in clouds in space. Everything seems to be there for life elsewhere in the Universe.
BUT one thing I never see anyone mention is that some race somewhere has to be the 'first' to develop intelligence. Maybe it is us. Maybe it isn't. There's no proof either way at the moment.
Intelligent life elsewhere in the Universe is one of those things that can never be disproved - you can always say 'we're not looking in the right places yet'
Old 26 February 2003, 09:23 AM
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i refuse to believe that the earth is the only liveable planet that revolves round a star that is just the right distance away, just the right temparature, has all the right elements etc etc.
Why not? Maybe there's a special set of circumstances that has only occurred in one place in the universe that produces life. Although the possibility of that happening is remote, the fact that we are here to ask the question makes the probability very high (anthropic principle).
Old 27 February 2003, 02:11 PM
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I find it very hard to believe that with the size of the Universe and the immense numbers of galaxies in existence, that there is no other planetary system which will support some form of life,even if it is very different to ours.

Les
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