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Old 23 June 2000, 11:41 PM
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Hi all, I received this from a mate today. What do you reckon?

Please read this e-mail, and pass it on to anyone who you think may
be interested. This is very important!

Fact 1
When the petrol price was hiked in America last year,
that's precisely what they did. Nobody bought petrol for a day. The
loss of revenue was crippling for some of the big players. They rallied
round and forced the prices down again.

Fact 2
If you live in the UK, you are taxed at 614% on your petrol. Petrol
is now approaching £0.90 per litre. That's £4.10 a gallon.
For every £50 fill-up, you're just giving the government £43 out of your own pocket.

Fact 3
For the average family, a 1p increase per litre in the cost of fuel means
an extra £100 a year out of their pocket. Work it out for yourself.
In the weeks leading up to mid June, you all took a salary cut of around £700 a year.

Fact 4
Fuel duty has little to do with the environment.
Leaded petrol was supposedly taxed highly for environmental reasons.
Why then, when it was replaced with LRP did the price not come down.
Diesel fuel is cheaper, yet pollutes more by producing carcinogens and
particulates. LPG is the cleanest fuel there is but you don't see the
government promoting that do you.

Fact 5
£38billion is sucked out of motorist's pockets each
year in tax. You buy the planet's most expensive petrol, but do you see
that money going back into the roads£ No you do not. A recent study
pointed out that most of Britain's roads are up to 15 years beyond their
structural refurbishment date.

Fact 6
Freight companies are suffering - so is our trade with the EU. When
a haulage company has to fill it's tanks with diesel taxed at such a
ridiculous rate, it's running costs become so expensive that companies
take their business to haulage firms based on the continent. That in turn
means a loss of income for our country.

Fact 7
Public transport is not an option. Buses and coaches become more expensive
again because of the underlying cost of running them. The privatised rail and bus
companies continue to slash services and close branch routes because running them is not
"cost effective." i.e. the shareholders aren't getting their dividends.
And the government are doing nothing about it. Rail companies
have been under performing and missing targets as stipulated by their
contracts ever since privatisation. Yet they're all still in business.


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So Act!
There is no major organisation that represents the British driver when it comes
to matters of fuel duty. The government are bleeding motorists dry.
Why? Because they can. As long as public apathy continues, and we keep
paying ludicrous prices for our petrol, the government will keep laying on the tax.

Starting on Tuesday, August 1st 2000, BOYCOTT THE FORECOURT PUMPS ON THE 1ST
OF EVERY MONTH UNTIL THE GOVERNMENT ACTS AND CUTS THE TAX. Don't buy any petrol or diesel.
Spread the word and force the government to listen.
For once, let's stand up with a unified voice and make them understand that
we will no longer be quietly steamrollered into a transport system that's crumbling
under our feet whilst we pay for it through the nose. Tell them you have had enough of Rip-Off Britain.

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If you work in a petrol station and support us:
I suggest you start printing on the receipts how much your punters just paid in tax.
If people start getting receipts that read £40 (£31.60=tax),then they'll start to take notice.

Official website:
Old 25 June 2000, 06:24 PM
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This high fuel tax makes Britain expensive for everything as it has an massive impact on the cost of distribution of goods as most goods are still transported at some stage by road.

I hope someone in a high places realises they are penalising a huge amount of our population by these taxes.


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Old 26 June 2000, 08:01 PM
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It's all tax! - If it did'nt come out of petrol it would come out of something else!

Only good thing is it hits the trucks hardest. It would be nice to get more goods moved by a decent railway service and free up the motorways. Hey with trucks off the roads it would certainly be much safer to increase the speed limits! Vote for me

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Old 28 June 2000, 07:00 PM
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Mick,

seems we disagree occasionally :-)

But seriously, I wouldn't mind high fuel tax, *if* the money went back into improving road safety and general road improvements. But instead, most of the (IIRC) 4.2 billion pounds just disappears, and we are forced to put up with stupidity like "speed kills", ever increasing numbers of camouflaged speed cameras etc...

I just don't get it... on the rare occasions that they build a new stretch of dual carriageway, they put a gatso on it; what, are they deliberately building accident blackspots now???? D'oh!

Fuel and road tax should be spent on one thing; ROADS!!! That way, those who use roads a lot, pay a lot for their upkeep. Those who don't use them a lot, don't. Simple. Fair.

Enough moaning for one evening methinks....

Cheers,

Pat.
Old 29 June 2000, 07:25 AM
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Pat try £35bn raised by 'motoring taxes' (fuel duty largest component) £5bn spent on roads/transport. (99/00)

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and the price is still the same today!
Old 21 November 2008, 08:28 PM
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Starting on Tuesday, August 1st 2000, BOYCOTT THE FORECOURT PUMPS ON THE 1ST
OF EVERY MONTH UNTIL THE GOVERNMENT ACTS AND CUTS THE TAX
Cant say I have noticed it having an impact. Nor are Tuesdays particularly quiet at the pumps.

All a load of hype, but lets face facts, with over 20p per litre stripped off the price at the pumps...... I dont see anything positive being said.
Will we ever be happy lol
Old 21 November 2008, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave Coulshaw
Pat try £35bn raised by 'motoring taxes' (fuel duty largest component) £5bn spent on roads/transport. (99/00)

06/07 was 45 and 4 I believe. So still only 10%, however note, road tax is now called VED, so not directly road related anymore. One of the countrys greatest "rebranding" exercises.
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Old 21 November 2008, 08:56 PM
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Pmsl I was just thinking that Fecking 8 years old
Old 21 November 2008, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by stevebt
Pmsl I was just thinking that Fecking 8 years old
The thread or the poster ?

Interesting point made though, almost the same price 8 years later!
Old 21 November 2008, 10:46 PM
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Was unleaded really 90p a litre in 2000
Old 21 November 2008, 10:51 PM
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yes i think it was 2000 was the year of the petrol blockades

in the next few years it 2002/3 it went back down to 74/5p a litre i think -- before the steady rise from 2005/6
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but in 1985 I was paying 45p a litre -- which actually makes you think that it has not gone up that much

i,m earning a damn site more than I was as a student back in 1985 -- but petrol only seems to have doubled!!
Old 21 November 2008, 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
but in 1985 I was paying 45p a litre -- which actually makes you think that it has not gone up that much

i,m earning a damn site more than I was as a student back in 1985 -- but petrol only seems to have doubled!!

That's roughly the price the Yanks pay at the pumps today though.
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$46.51 pb at close today.
Old 21 November 2008, 11:32 PM
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agreed -- but does put some of the whinging about prices in perspective

i used to put in pennies each time -- I remember running out of petrol was a fairly regular occurence -- twice in a day once

got my info here btw -- if anyones interested

Fuel Prices historic data
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Interesting conversion here, its early so prob got it all wrong.

We pay 90p per litre at the mo.
90p is $1.34 with the current conversions.

1 US gallon is 3.78 litres
A gallon of gas in the USA WAS $4 a gallon when I was out there in July which puts our current price at $5 a gallon, so NOT as far apart as they could have been...

However..... on searching the net, just as it looked like the gap was closing... Theirs appears to have dropped.... this is the gutting bit.... by 50% !!
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yes -- there petrol price, due not being taxed that much, fluctuates in line with the "price of oil" much more that ours -- goes up and down quicker

coz 80% of the price we pay (or whatever the figure is) is tax which remains static and is not reflected in the "price of oil"
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