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17 October 2002, 09:34 PM
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Nottingham is getting a lovely review tonite. 
WTF is wrong with people nowadays that a night out seems to always end in violence?
This problem is appearing nationwide and seems to be getting worse. The local club where I spent many a night "mangled" has been at the centre of 3 murders in the last 2 years.
I've had this discussion with a few people recently who I would have had a pint with in the past and we've been shocked with the escalation in violence. The odd fight in a pub/club was always there but in recent years it is more likely that someone will pull a knife or not give up until they have kicked the other person's head in.
One theory is the popularity of shots such as Aftershock which people throw into them at an alarming rate and loose all control in a short space of time.
Anyone else care to comment or am I just becoming a sad aul fart and should be buying the "pipe and slippers" soon! 
WTF is wrong with people nowadays that a night out seems to always end in violence?
This problem is appearing nationwide and seems to be getting worse. The local club where I spent many a night "mangled" has been at the centre of 3 murders in the last 2 years. I've had this discussion with a few people recently who I would have had a pint with in the past and we've been shocked with the escalation in violence. The odd fight in a pub/club was always there but in recent years it is more likely that someone will pull a knife or not give up until they have kicked the other person's head in.
One theory is the popularity of shots such as Aftershock which people throw into them at an alarming rate and loose all control in a short space of time.
Anyone else care to comment or am I just becoming a sad aul fart and should be buying the "pipe and slippers" soon!
17 October 2002, 09:39 PM
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who cares...?
They can all beat and stab each other to death as far as I'm concerned.[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
We were lucky to do our clubbing in an era when peace and harmony was trendy and drinking was way out of fashion
They can all beat and stab each other to death as far as I'm concerned.[img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
We were lucky to do our clubbing in an era when peace and harmony was trendy and drinking was way out of fashion
17 October 2002, 09:45 PM
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who cares...?
I agree we did have our fun "back in the day"
but even on recent nights out I've seen some feckin horrible fights. My local weekly paper now seems to always have requests for witnesses to serious assaults. The point I was trying to make is what has brought about this change?
17 October 2002, 09:48 PM
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I reckon it's all this 'I'm a hard man' Garage/Crack/gun wannabe gangsta culture cr@p.
Every weekend in London there are stabbings and people getting shot outside these clubs. I don't bother with it anymore.
Every weekend in London there are stabbings and people getting shot outside these clubs. I don't bother with it anymore.
17 October 2002, 09:49 PM
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I grew up in Nottingham, and I have to say that I never had any problems being out "on the town" - in fact I still feel safer out in Nottingham that I do out in my new home town of Reading. And Nottinghams is supposed to be a violent city???
Mind you, I have to admit that Nottingham does have its "interesting areas" but they aren't really in the town centre.
Mind you, I have to admit that Nottingham does have its "interesting areas" but they aren't really in the town centre.
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Unfortunately it seems to be the growing culture nationwide [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
I live in what is supposed to be a posh town but anyone who goes out pubbing it where I live knows full well what a bunch of fooking nutters live here, its drug run, fights every Thursday, Friday and Saturday night throughout the town resulting in serious assaults. I have witnessed many bottlings, my sisters bf had the **** kicked out of him cos he witnessed 4 blokes doing coke in the pub toilet and didnt batter an eyelid but they felt compelled to beat the living daylights out of him and the bouncers didnt step in until the last minute. He ended up in hospital with a suspected fractured skull, broken ribs etc and looked like he had been in a traffic accident
I wonder why that is? I tell you why, its cos the publicans are run by the drug dealers and let them do whatever they fooking please in their pub! [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] I had plenty of rows with the local druggies as I don't like being shoved out the way when trying to get a drink and verbally abused etc but luckily never got serious enough to get beaten up, but certainly felt it was heading that way at times. Theses ******* think they can do what they want and pretty much most of the time they get away with it. [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
Doesn't matter where you go in this country, u will find bad attitude, drug territory and people looking for a fight. Its pathetic and ruins going out for an enjoyable night with your mates.
The reason its going down the pan? Because of the softly softly approach by a more and more liberal society who thinks its wrong to smack naughty children(old enough to know what is wrong), to imprison juveniles who do serious crime and adults who get away with serious crime with a joke of a sentence. What deterrent is there to stop thuggery and crime? None as they get let off with a warning or a stupidly pathetic community service order!
This country's people who make the rules up need to seriously pull their socks up and start giving the police the right authority to do their jobs properly, make judges give out proper sentences and realise what the **** is going on in our country!!!
I live in what is supposed to be a posh town but anyone who goes out pubbing it where I live knows full well what a bunch of fooking nutters live here, its drug run, fights every Thursday, Friday and Saturday night throughout the town resulting in serious assaults. I have witnessed many bottlings, my sisters bf had the **** kicked out of him cos he witnessed 4 blokes doing coke in the pub toilet and didnt batter an eyelid but they felt compelled to beat the living daylights out of him and the bouncers didnt step in until the last minute. He ended up in hospital with a suspected fractured skull, broken ribs etc and looked like he had been in a traffic accident
I wonder why that is? I tell you why, its cos the publicans are run by the drug dealers and let them do whatever they fooking please in their pub! [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img] I had plenty of rows with the local druggies as I don't like being shoved out the way when trying to get a drink and verbally abused etc but luckily never got serious enough to get beaten up, but certainly felt it was heading that way at times. Theses ******* think they can do what they want and pretty much most of the time they get away with it. [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]Doesn't matter where you go in this country, u will find bad attitude, drug territory and people looking for a fight. Its pathetic and ruins going out for an enjoyable night with your mates.
The reason its going down the pan? Because of the softly softly approach by a more and more liberal society who thinks its wrong to smack naughty children(old enough to know what is wrong), to imprison juveniles who do serious crime and adults who get away with serious crime with a joke of a sentence. What deterrent is there to stop thuggery and crime? None as they get let off with a warning or a stupidly pathetic community service order!
This country's people who make the rules up need to seriously pull their socks up and start giving the police the right authority to do their jobs properly, make judges give out proper sentences and realise what the **** is going on in our country!!!
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17 October 2002, 11:07 PM
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cocaine turns people into arrogant w@nker$ 
Give it to a 'not too bright' bod, coupled with plenty of alcohol, who is bouyed up by his 'mates' in a similar state, then fill thier heads with violent thoughts via the music and you have what you see..
When everyone was 'luved up' these things just could not happen. you would see the most unlikely of 'bed fellows' all gettin' on like a house on fire and it was great
Give it to a 'not too bright' bod, coupled with plenty of alcohol, who is bouyed up by his 'mates' in a similar state, then fill thier heads with violent thoughts via the music and you have what you see..
When everyone was 'luved up' these things just could not happen.
you would see the most unlikely of 'bed fellows' all gettin' on like a house on fire and it was great
17 October 2002, 11:26 PM
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I have to say that wifey and I stopped going out for a drink in town many years ago. We took this sad step because it was oh so easy to get involved in something you wanted no part of, simply by being there. I'm talking about the gangs of young kids, boozed up, landlord turns a blind eye while raking in the profits. You happen to look at the wrong one, and he's straight over, backed by at least 4 mates, and you've got a kicking coming.
Didn't happen to me, but I have several mates who were on the receiving end.
What a saddo society we live in.
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Didn't happen to me, but I have several mates who were on the receiving end.
What a saddo society we live in.
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Bravo, as you well know, we seem to be a magnet towards trouble when we go out....
it's just jealous people, who dont want to see others enjoying themselves and having friends!!!
I was born in Basildon Essex, and have just moved out of the area, for the sake of my 14mth old son.
Not saying anything bad about the everyday nice folks who live there, but the percentage of hooligan yobbos is on the rapid increase. (i guess this is happening everywhere now)
they have no respect for old folk (some of whom fought for them)
i've seen them being spat and swore at, even having stones lobbed at them!!!
i think they should be forced to watch films of hardship, killing, and starvation, then be forced to one of them camps, like lads army, without their mum being able to cuddle the litle ******* to sleep.
Bravo2Z - You know my views on this!!!
as for graffitti ..........ARGH dont get me started!!!
gone to calm down with a nice hot coffee!!!! BB
and they should also make both them, and their parents accountable for their actions!!!!
i hate these brats, and although its a=gainst the law, if one of these 15yr old ******* did something to my family, i would not stabb them 12 times, but would give them a severe kicking!!!!
its the only language i think they understand.
it's just jealous people, who dont want to see others enjoying themselves and having friends!!!
I was born in Basildon Essex, and have just moved out of the area, for the sake of my 14mth old son.
Not saying anything bad about the everyday nice folks who live there, but the percentage of hooligan yobbos is on the rapid increase. (i guess this is happening everywhere now)
they have no respect for old folk (some of whom fought for them)
i've seen them being spat and swore at, even having stones lobbed at them!!!
i think they should be forced to watch films of hardship, killing, and starvation, then be forced to one of them camps, like lads army, without their mum being able to cuddle the litle ******* to sleep.
Bravo2Z - You know my views on this!!!
as for graffitti ..........ARGH dont get me started!!!
gone to calm down with a nice hot coffee!!!! BB
and they should also make both them, and their parents accountable for their actions!!!!
i hate these brats, and although its a=gainst the law, if one of these 15yr old ******* did something to my family, i would not stabb them 12 times, but would give them a severe kicking!!!!
its the only language i think they understand.
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