Online speed awareness courses?
#1
Online speed awareness courses?
Anyone done one?
And can you book anywhere even though you are miles away.
Reason for asking is that since they are online...technically I could attend any one in the country. As the prices vary by up to £10...I figured why should I pay £90 for a local one when I could pay £80 for one further away.
For the nosey: ninja bikecam hiding between a van and a wall on a downhill stretch, was coasting with a giant orange Ford Ranger up my ****; In hindsight should have brake tested the ****; No doubt he was travelling so close the camera didn't get his reg so he got away scott free .
My view v.s zoomed...no chance of spotting him in time....
And can you book anywhere even though you are miles away.
Reason for asking is that since they are online...technically I could attend any one in the country. As the prices vary by up to £10...I figured why should I pay £90 for a local one when I could pay £80 for one further away.
For the nosey: ninja bikecam hiding between a van and a wall on a downhill stretch, was coasting with a giant orange Ford Ranger up my ****; In hindsight should have brake tested the ****; No doubt he was travelling so close the camera didn't get his reg so he got away scott free .
My view v.s zoomed...no chance of spotting him in time....
Last edited by ALi-B; 20 May 2021 at 11:40 AM.
#2
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Im afraid take juvenille delight in slowing down when peeps get this close in a 30 , and then driving on the their bumper when they are not keeping to NSL further down the road
its all form road rage , must grow up
its all form road rage , must grow up
#3
I usually do the same. And TBH I think the speed they quoted me doing is wrong: 36mph actual is 39mph on my speedometer. I totally refute that I was doing 39mph indicated as the fastest I go on that stretch is 35mph indicated (due to downhill drift and I don't ride brakes hence 56,000miles on the same front brake pads ), 35mph indicated which is about 32 to 33mph actual.
But I really can't be arsed to argue about it. Next few times I see him on my way home I'll just park up safely either in his line of view or to slow traffic on that stretch (without causing a hazard or obstruction) and then make a few phone important phone calls from the passenger seat to HP technical support, maybe Virgin or the Inland Revenue; Usually takes 30mins on hold per call.
At least I won't be obstructing the footpath (soon to be illegal if it gets passed through the commons).
Just p*sses me off that we get LOTS of fair weather bikers and kids on those crappy Chinese singles/twins (upgraded from their mopeds) that always speed but never get caught owing to no front plates. 🤷♂️
But I really can't be arsed to argue about it. Next few times I see him on my way home I'll just park up safely either in his line of view or to slow traffic on that stretch (without causing a hazard or obstruction) and then make a few phone important phone calls from the passenger seat to HP technical support, maybe Virgin or the Inland Revenue; Usually takes 30mins on hold per call.
At least I won't be obstructing the footpath (soon to be illegal if it gets passed through the commons).
Just p*sses me off that we get LOTS of fair weather bikers and kids on those crappy Chinese singles/twins (upgraded from their mopeds) that always speed but never get caught owing to no front plates. 🤷♂️
Last edited by ALi-B; 20 May 2021 at 11:59 AM.
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#5
Checked the laws on that: It is actually still legal to park on pavements so long as there is space to get past (Except London).
The grey area on law is if a visually impaired pedestrian could be injured by the bike (caught my shin on the foot pegs of my own bikes enough times; only slightly less painful than a towing eye or treading on a plug ). And these 'safety camera' partnerships have an answers for everything: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/reque...s_on_pavements
In other words you need to find a blind person and get him to walk into the bike/camera before they'll do anything about it!
There are attempts to make ALL pavement parking illegal, but the commons/lords vote last year got delayed when Corona kicked off
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That's a bummer; I thought I had a NIP on the way after a run on the A30 last month ( it must be one of the fastest, emptiest A roads in England out of holiday season, past Dartmoor) but nothing came. My last NIP was cancelled on a technicality too, so I've been lucky, but bike coppers always tend to throw the whole book at you, in my experience. Unfortunately you're ****ed in a 30 limit, for good reason, I guess. Been there myself, 37 in a 30 just popping out to get butter, pulling past parked cars.
#7
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I've done one, earlier in the yr, 34! in a 30 zone petty so and so's, dunno the bit about booking the course wherever ya like tho, all i'll say is it was 3 and a half hrs of my life i'll never get back sat glued to my computer talking to an instructor and 7 other randoms ive never seen b4, ended up with a numb **** sitting there for that longonly good bit was a couple of the other poor souls in the group were very soft on the eye and made good viewing
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#8
Had a poke about on the NDORs thingy and some areas are like Hartlepool are £74 where others are over £90!
Tried booking but no slots until July where the more expensive ones via TTC can be had next week (albeit early start or slap bang in the middle of lunch ) so obviously I think others have cottoned onto this and already booked up the cheapest courses for the next month.
So bit the bullet and gone for a more expensive one which has a slot for next week.
We'll see if re-education changes me. My Golf won't cruise efficiently below 30mph... so fuel economy drops to low 20's...keep it above 30mph allows me to use overdrive gears (5th and 6th), so mpg jumps up above 30mpg (usually 31mpg, but can get 35mpg if I don't get caught at red lights). If I stick to 3rd/4th and sub 30mph, I'm looking at 24mpg. That's a commute cost difference of over £1.50 everyday...which quickly cancels out the cost of speeding fines and awareness courses. Maybe a Ninjacam awareness course is called for...or dust off my RD500 and use that to commute (not sure if the MPG on that is any better than the Golf but at least I won't get snapped ).
Tried booking but no slots until July where the more expensive ones via TTC can be had next week (albeit early start or slap bang in the middle of lunch ) so obviously I think others have cottoned onto this and already booked up the cheapest courses for the next month.
So bit the bullet and gone for a more expensive one which has a slot for next week.
We'll see if re-education changes me. My Golf won't cruise efficiently below 30mph... so fuel economy drops to low 20's...keep it above 30mph allows me to use overdrive gears (5th and 6th), so mpg jumps up above 30mpg (usually 31mpg, but can get 35mpg if I don't get caught at red lights). If I stick to 3rd/4th and sub 30mph, I'm looking at 24mpg. That's a commute cost difference of over £1.50 everyday...which quickly cancels out the cost of speeding fines and awareness courses. Maybe a Ninjacam awareness course is called for...or dust off my RD500 and use that to commute (not sure if the MPG on that is any better than the Golf but at least I won't get snapped ).
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"No, this is in #### and just around this bend is a farm shop with a big open concrete yard out front. In 20## child ran out after a ball and was killed. If the driver was going slower the child may have survived"
I couldn't get him to see how ridiculous he sounded, as how is anyone supposed to know what's round ANY bend ? Should we just drive everywhere at 15mph just in case ? Sure even then you could still kill a child if it jumps out in front of you.
I'm aware of the dangers of speeding, but theres no point in spouting nonsense on the course. Fair enough if you get educated in some way but I came away none the wiser.
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yeah I made that mistake, showed us a photo of a country road with a sweeping bend on it. Asked us what the speed limit would be. "60" was the majority answer.
"No, this is in #### and just around this bend is a farm shop with a big open concrete yard out front. In 20## child ran out after a ball and was killed. If the driver was going slower the child may have survived"
I couldn't get him to see how ridiculous he sounded, as how is anyone supposed to know what's round ANY bend ? Should we just drive everywhere at 15mph just in case ? Sure even then you could still kill a child if it jumps out in front of you.
I'm aware of the dangers of speeding, but theres no point in spouting nonsense on the course. Fair enough if you get educated in some way but I came away none the wiser.
"No, this is in #### and just around this bend is a farm shop with a big open concrete yard out front. In 20## child ran out after a ball and was killed. If the driver was going slower the child may have survived"
I couldn't get him to see how ridiculous he sounded, as how is anyone supposed to know what's round ANY bend ? Should we just drive everywhere at 15mph just in case ? Sure even then you could still kill a child if it jumps out in front of you.
I'm aware of the dangers of speeding, but theres no point in spouting nonsense on the course. Fair enough if you get educated in some way but I came away none the wiser.
My course tutor (cow) tried to tell me in a 30mph you should be in 3rd and in 40mph you should be 4th but if you were doing your driving test youd be marked down for uneconomical use of the gears, without any knowledge of how many gears you have or how they are used.
I was going to mansplain how it actually works but thought better of it. 👍
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yeah I made that mistake, showed us a photo of a country road with a sweeping bend on it. Asked us what the speed limit would be. "60" was the majority answer.
"No, this is in #### and just around this bend is a farm shop with a big open concrete yard out front. In 20## child ran out after a ball and was killed. If the driver was going slower the child may have survived"
I couldn't get him to see how ridiculous he sounded, as how is anyone supposed to know what's round ANY bend ? Should we just drive everywhere at 15mph just in case ? Sure even then you could still kill a child if it jumps out in front of you.
I'm aware of the dangers of speeding, but theres no point in spouting nonsense on the course. Fair enough if you get educated in some way but I came away none the wiser.
"No, this is in #### and just around this bend is a farm shop with a big open concrete yard out front. In 20## child ran out after a ball and was killed. If the driver was going slower the child may have survived"
I couldn't get him to see how ridiculous he sounded, as how is anyone supposed to know what's round ANY bend ? Should we just drive everywhere at 15mph just in case ? Sure even then you could still kill a child if it jumps out in front of you.
I'm aware of the dangers of speeding, but theres no point in spouting nonsense on the course. Fair enough if you get educated in some way but I came away none the wiser.
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yeah I made that mistake, showed us a photo of a country road with a sweeping bend on it. Asked us what the speed limit would be. "60" was the majority answer.
"No, this is in #### and just around this bend is a farm shop with a big open concrete yard out front. In 20## child ran out after a ball and was killed. If the driver was going slower the child may have survived"
I couldn't get him to see how ridiculous he sounded, as how is anyone supposed to know what's round ANY bend ? Should we just drive everywhere at 15mph just in case ? Sure even then you could still kill a child if it jumps out in front of you.
I'm aware of the dangers of speeding, but theres no point in spouting nonsense on the course. Fair enough if you get educated in some way but I came away none the wiser.
"No, this is in #### and just around this bend is a farm shop with a big open concrete yard out front. In 20## child ran out after a ball and was killed. If the driver was going slower the child may have survived"
I couldn't get him to see how ridiculous he sounded, as how is anyone supposed to know what's round ANY bend ? Should we just drive everywhere at 15mph just in case ? Sure even then you could still kill a child if it jumps out in front of you.
I'm aware of the dangers of speeding, but theres no point in spouting nonsense on the course. Fair enough if you get educated in some way but I came away none the wiser.
#19
Well that was a breeze; Old school advanced driving trainer, so chilled. Just needed to repress my inner smart **** and not glaze over on the boring/obvious bits.
Bar the old guy with a slow internet connection and stuck on mute and 'tiger woman' with the screaming brat. Oh the joys of zoom Still way way better than traipsing to a classroom.
Bar the old guy with a slow internet connection and stuck on mute and 'tiger woman' with the screaming brat. Oh the joys of zoom Still way way better than traipsing to a classroom.
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Well that was a breeze; Old school advanced driving trainer, so chilled. Just needed to repress my inner smart **** and not glaze over on the boring/obvious bits.
Bar the old guy with a slow internet connection and stuck on mute and 'tiger woman' with the screaming brat. Oh the joys of zoom Still way way better than traipsing to a classroom.
Bar the old guy with a slow internet connection and stuck on mute and 'tiger woman' with the screaming brat. Oh the joys of zoom Still way way better than traipsing to a classroom.
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