Ethics
#1
Ethics
The thread of the airbus crash. The co-pilot was a professional and put his personal weakness in front of professionalism. I work in aerospace and the lump of metal I process is holding circa 200 souls in the air so I will adhere to the process to help make a conforming part. Life is getting very performance target orientated so where do we draw the line and put our self trust and trust in others to deliver professionalism over self personal conduct. Discuss.
#2
Once you lose your mind,everything else goes out the window.Forget ethics.That person will have done....
#3
Bit harsh,personal weakness.No one has any idea whatsoever what went on. All due to conjecture due to his alleged normal breathing....
#5
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Yes, he set the altitude to 100meters, the lowest possible setting, knowing it would crash into the mountains - in a way he took final responsibility away from himself, he just sat there, passively
At my daughters 6th form Colledge a fellow student committed suicide a few weeks ago
He was killed by a train nr Shepreth station (Cambridge) he did not throw himself in front of it though
He walked further up the line - laid across the tracks and put his headphones on, and simply waited - in a way, much like the pilot
At my daughters 6th form Colledge a fellow student committed suicide a few weeks ago
He was killed by a train nr Shepreth station (Cambridge) he did not throw himself in front of it though
He walked further up the line - laid across the tracks and put his headphones on, and simply waited - in a way, much like the pilot
#6
The thread is more putting our trust in professionals and them being professional. The co pilot albeit low flying hours under his belt is trained at all costs to preserve life, on the ground or in the plane. Why not go with good old rope and loft hatch or car hose pipe. Not murder 150 poor souls why put their trust in him.
Last edited by daviee; 28 March 2015 at 01:27 PM.
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#8
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Apparently in the past he has meant to have said "One day I'm going to do something that history will remember me by, and the whole world will remember my name"
And said he had dreams of crashing a plane too.
And said he had dreams of crashing a plane too.
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#9
The thread is more putting our trust in professionals and them being professional. The co pilot albeit low flying hours under his belt is trained at all costs to preserve life, on the ground or in the plane. Why not go with good old rope and loft hatch or car hose pipe. Not murder 150 poor souls why put their trust in him.
He obviously lost all meaning and value for life as 'life'- may it be his and/or others'. He disconnected full style with everyone and everything, and performed the act at his complete ease. He was calm, because what could have been brewing in his mind for a while was about to be executed on his terms.
It is also said that people who suicide on duty give a message to their workplace of their strong hatred for it. I don't think it's always that. Sometimes people may kill themselves at work because home is where they have no control over everything, whereas work situation may provide them with more control upon themselves hence the delivery of their ultimate desire on duty.
It could have been the act of narcissism where by he felt that if he was walking on thin ice with his non-disclosure to his work of his illness. The job he always wanted, got interrupted at his training due to his psychological unfit state at the time, and eventually he succeeded in getting it. Even after becoming a pilot, he was jokingly referred by his colleagues as 'Tomato Andi' for being a flight attendant in past when he was hellbent to become a pilot. Being a pilot to him perhaps meant everything for him, and the disclosure of his mental illness could have ended up as a loss of his dream job and shattering embarrassment for him. Like a 'nothing to live for' situation. Perhaps this fear of losing his main crown fvvked his head, and then he didn't give a fvvk to anyone else's life either.
Ethically, this event is a disaster. Along the lines of what Loz says above, when one's head is on another planet, ethics are out of the window for a professional.
#10
People do have some idea of what went on, that's all.
#11
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Papers like Daily Mail are saying via their sources that he used to tell his ex about his dark thoughts of doing something radical of the sort. Apparently he often dreamt and woke up screaming with "we're going down!". Apparently his Ex freaked out with all that and called it a day with him. Papers say that he ordered two Audis; one for himself and one for her; in order to win her back, but it didn't work, and only one Audi was ever delivered. When the aircraft crash did happen, it became clear to his ex that he meant what he used to babble about.
He obviously lost all meaning and value for life as 'life'- may it be his and/or others'. He disconnected full style with everyone and everything, and performed the act at his complete ease. He was calm, because what could have been brewing in his mind for a while was about to be executed on his terms.
It is also said that people who suicide on duty give a message to their workplace of their strong hatred for it. I don't think it's always that. Sometimes people may kill themselves at work because home is where they have no control over everything, whereas work situation may provide them with more control upon themselves hence the delivery of their ultimate desire on duty.
It could have been the act of narcissism where by he felt that if he was walking on thin ice with his non-disclosure to his work of his illness. The job he always wanted, got interrupted at his training due to his psychological unfit state at the time, and eventually he succeeded in getting it. Even after becoming a pilot, he was jokingly referred by his colleagues as 'Tomato Andi' for being a flight attendant in past when he was hellbent to become a pilot. Being a pilot to him perhaps meant everything for him, and the disclosure of his mental illness could have ended up as a loss of his dream job and shattering embarrassment for him. Like a 'nothing to live for' situation. Perhaps this fear of losing his main crown fvvked his head, and then he didn't give a fvvk to anyone else's life either.
Ethically, this event is a disaster. Along the lines of what Loz says above, when one's head is on another planet, ethics are out of the window for a professional.
He obviously lost all meaning and value for life as 'life'- may it be his and/or others'. He disconnected full style with everyone and everything, and performed the act at his complete ease. He was calm, because what could have been brewing in his mind for a while was about to be executed on his terms.
It is also said that people who suicide on duty give a message to their workplace of their strong hatred for it. I don't think it's always that. Sometimes people may kill themselves at work because home is where they have no control over everything, whereas work situation may provide them with more control upon themselves hence the delivery of their ultimate desire on duty.
It could have been the act of narcissism where by he felt that if he was walking on thin ice with his non-disclosure to his work of his illness. The job he always wanted, got interrupted at his training due to his psychological unfit state at the time, and eventually he succeeded in getting it. Even after becoming a pilot, he was jokingly referred by his colleagues as 'Tomato Andi' for being a flight attendant in past when he was hellbent to become a pilot. Being a pilot to him perhaps meant everything for him, and the disclosure of his mental illness could have ended up as a loss of his dream job and shattering embarrassment for him. Like a 'nothing to live for' situation. Perhaps this fear of losing his main crown fvvked his head, and then he didn't give a fvvk to anyone else's life either.
Ethically, this event is a disaster. Along the lines of what Loz says above, when one's head is on another planet, ethics are out of the window for a professional.
He must have been psychotic if he thought buying an Audi was a good idea.
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