Overson

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Hi i have a standard uk 2000 Xreg impreza and are looking for an upgrade ECU
the one on the car is a AE802, i have read that you can fit a 801 or 800 for more power, are there any other ECU's i can fit,
i have been told that STI ECU's dont work because of no air temp sensor, is that right.

Tidgy

get the standard ecu mapped, job done

Overson

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whats the cost of a remap

leecalcars

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350 ish

or go simtek !

TonyBurns

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£650ish for a remap.

Tony

Overson

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I think at that price i might go back to my original question of what ECU can i fit to my car

TonyBurns

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Whichever ecu your going to fit your gains will be minimal, the AE800 was replaced very quickly with the AE801, people say they have more power but that has to be taken with a pinch of salt as the map is the same, the AE802 has an emissions mode that I believe the 800/801 didnt have, which can be a little pain but easy enough to get around.
Otherwise your looking at aftermarket so cheapest would be a second hand (and not as good as the standard ecu) apexi at circa 3-400 then 300 to map, simtek is 1200 quid etc, wont even go to motec so your really best off with the option you have now and remap, you can get it cheaper (the remap) if you go for a group buy, so circa 550, but not much cheaper than that unless the ecu has already been ecutek'd and has the license.

Tony

Gambit

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or pickup a prodrive ecu for around £200-250

Overson

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does any one know which prodrive ECU will fit my impreza, Part number ?

Tidgy

there is no point in just switching the eu, it will need mapping to run on your car anyway so will be back to square 1 with additional cost.

Options depend on budget, chepest will be map the standard one, then simtek, then syvecs with various other in the mix but not as good options.

it realy depends on how far your planning to mod it in future. Syvecs is the best ecu on the market at the min bar none, but its about £2k+, simtek is a good budget aftermarket ecu, does away with the maf and is roughly £1k all in. remap ont eh existing ecu is roughly £650+ vat, give or take and depending on who you use and what software they use.

bigsinky

this always amazes me. looks like he will be saving for another while. nowt cheap about imprezas.

Tidgy

only time anything is cheap with impreza's is the bodge it and scarpa jobs that blow up in your face

Gambit

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how's that? it just drops straight into his car without the need to remap. but, as you say,all depends how far he wants to take the car? prodrive is a good upgrade if your not looking on pouring loads of money into the car but still want the car to have a bit more grunt.

you are looking for an SP ecu - pref with the authenticy certificate
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y18...1/DSC02959.jpg

will totally tranform the car driving wise without the need to spend mega money on a full remap if you dont want to go down that route.

all you need to pick up is the metal Y pipe and a straight thru centre section to gain the most from the prodrive ecu

Gambit

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and you are also correct it in that the ae800 & 801 are v.slightly more agressive than the ae802. whether you'd feel it is another thing

http://www2.ecutek.com.au/ecu_original.htm

albob

the prodrive ecu for the my00 is 'plug and play' - just swap them over, only takes a few minutes to do

the numbers from the label on mine (my00) are

1001056110
A18-000 DIX (9X15)

is is a pink sti label, as in photo from GAMBITs' post


alan

TonyBurns

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Well plug n play for the ppp ecu.... hmmmm if you have the full PPP components then its spot on, if you dont then its not going to be spot on.
Your best off remapping your standard ecu, if you want to go for the full 2.5 inch scorpion exhaust (thats what Prodrive used) the uprated intercooler piping and removal of the 2nd cat then your in a good position, on the other hand if you go fully decat and a 3 inch exhaust, your not and you can have issues with a PPP ecu as it cannot correct enough, hence your "cheapest" option is still to have the car remapped for the mods that are on it.

Tony

Gambit

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a remap is not the cheapest option - its a std car. The cheapest option is all dependant on what the OP has planned now & future

mine was to make my daily driver a bit more livelier (it was std when i got it also) to PPP it cost me £250 for ecu, 50 for scorpion backbox, 40 for straight thru centre section and 45 for prodrive Y pipe.

thats alot cheaper than a remap

Tidgy

but wont give you the same increase that you'll get from a map.

TonyBurns

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Yup a remap is the cheapest option as its car specific any mods already on the car wont need to be changed to fit a ppp ecu/exhaust/y pipe etc, yours may have cost x ammount but getting hold of a ppp ecu still doesnt make your car a ppp'd car either, and as these are all out of warranty now its just as good getting a bespoke remap (also if the op then modifies later the ecu already has a license )

Tony

Gambit

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yep that is a positive for the map over ppp in that its mapped for your car whereas ppp is generic. but you have to pay for any map 'tweak' for any future mod's you add. ppp being out of warranty isnt an issue.

it all really depends on where the OP wants to go with the car and what he wants. which he still hasnt stated - so until then we are just giving two options available to him

TonyBurns

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The trouble is, is that you cant change the spec of what the PPP ecu should run, ie decat, as it will det, so overall the best option is to just splash out now and see how cheap he can get a remap for (some gb's are 550 inc vat which is good vfm )

Tony

Coffin Dodger

Manual boost controller (Dawes Device) and fuel cut defender. Job done

Gambit

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if he changes the spec of the std car after its originally been mapped then it still needs/costs for the map to be tweaked again for any future mods. so its as broad as its long.

its like saying if i wanted to stick a decat on mine i could but id then have to go and get the car mapped if it did det. but at the same time i dont want to decat nor do i want to change the spec of the engine as it is now. so hence why i never got my car custom mapped.

he may, he may not, and wont know until the OP tells us it all boils down to money and what he wants to spend

midnight

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On a std 2000 uk car if the op wants more power than his std 215 bhp at the cheapest cost,then the prodrive ecu is the way to go imho.My uk car when i bought it had a prodrive ecu,samco y pipe and a scoobysport backbox(similar design as the prodrive item).Dispite not being fitted by prodrive the car was running 242 bhp with printout. I sold these items and netted £410 courtesy of ebay.The remapping group buy initially cost me £470 on my 1st ecu,so to have that ecu tweaked cost me £140 ,but the power gains were 90 bhp up on the prodrive. It really does depend on how much power you really want if you want a car that has more driveabilty than std at little money then ppp is the way to go, it might be a generic map but it is instant plug & go.If you crave more power + expense the remap + supporting mods is the way.

http://www.subaru-impreza.org/downlo...F%20MANUAL.pdf