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so had a long drive yesterday and Friday. Scotland - wales and back. Approx 16 hrs.
so car felt to me to be unstable at above 80 mph seemed to be holding road fine but would then lurch about just didn’t seem right. Can’t put a finger in exactly what it was just didn’t fill me with confidence. Steering I’d say was slightly pulling to the left and I wouldn’t say it was camber in road could this be tracking and would this lead to a funky feel at higher speed. Under hard throttle in day 2nd 3rd 4th it would hold fine and stay straight it just felt odd at +80 ( just cruising on m6 )
tracking out, worn bush, dodgy tyre pressure or tread wear?? many things.....
thanks Alan. Funnily enough I have a mate mechanic in wales and got him to put car up on ramp to have a look. I really wondered if roll bar links were loose or I’d snapped a coil. All was fine , he then went around with his pry bar ( he does mots ) and said no all is fine. I didn’t check tyres as it does have the sensors if any drop. So I’d say tyre’s fine , bushes fine , as for tyre wear they do always wear on the outer and that’s with out any pre dialled in camber / caster off set ? Tracking has never been done either. Would that cause it to wallow about ?
My Fsti , I run 36 front 33 rear , worth getting tracking checked , my tyre wear is very even , if nothing in loose or worn , then the above are likely issues , what tyres are you running im assuming decent branded ones ?
Running eagle f1 asymmetric fr and rr , just notice that mot advisories state close to legal limit on outside edge ? Said that twice now. Car has only done 49000 miles. I’ll see if I can get tracking done
So either very towed out or camber is causing the wear , my understanding is some negative camber is good , so yours is either a lot of positive camber or towing out ? Normally in my experience inner tyre wear is more common , definitely a tyre pressure check and tracking check , I am no tech in that area but I assume if it's towed out then any left or right steering will become over exaggerating which is maybe what you are feeling in the wheel ? But it does sound quite a lot out
Yea makes sense I’ll have a look tomorrow at pressure and wear. Trouble is where we live is rura and to get home it’s a mile down a really rough track. Despite going really slowly I know it’s not ideal for a car with that hard a suspension and roll bar. Although it’s built for lasting it can’t be good for it. Is tracking on these cars the same for norrmal or does it have to be more specialist because it’s permanent 4wd ?
A specialist is best but a decent local can do it , it's probably your road causing the issues , maybe tracking needs doing more often say once a year ,
Going to hopefully pop to ATS this afternoon, they do 4 wheel alignment either computerised or laser. See what’s what. !! Make sense to be done , has never been done and car is now 8 yrs old.
If it helps , the handling has been fine on mine , no funny tyre wear , and I don't think I have had the tracking done or even checked in at least the last three years , maybe 8 years with your road is just expecting too much ? It's about time I got mine checked too👍
So just back but I don’t think I’ll take it back there. Put lasers in and then computer read all was out. Rear passenger by a lot both fr we’re facing to the right. We were stood under car and I noticed a bolt hanging down through hole in lower arm. Had a look and the adjustable link had come apart ! ( whiteline adj ) when the chap said how are we going to do that I said your not I’ll take it home and do it !! I said I’ll take back once done but I won’t. I’m guessing with tracking off and a arb link not connected that would make it drive odd ?
I'm still putting my money on the tracking being out due to tyre wear , an arb will just balance out one wheel to another , it will effect handling also most obvious when cornering 👍
so having removed the roll bar link this is what I found. Completely stripped the internal threads. ?? Yes the nut was tight when fitted. Maybe a manufacturing fault. That wouldn’t help tracking much !
so having removed the roll bar link this is what I found. Completely stripped the internal threads. ?? Yes the nut was tight when fitted. Maybe a manufacturing fault. That wouldn’t help tracking much !
No surprise if it's anodized alloy,newage are steel.
The ones I took off were steel. Makes you wonder why they sell them as in “ upgrade “. They are whiteline. Going to fit oe spec ones back on but keep the whiteline arb. Just for them to middle hole. At least solid ones can’t come apart unless they snap !!
That's one of the many reasons why I avoid WL at all costs. I can honestly say that every WL product that I've bought over 2 decades has either rusted or failed prematurely; rack bushes, drop links, top mounts, anti roll bars. And yet, most Subaru specialists still push their products, denying they see failures.
The ones I took off were steel. Makes you wonder why they sell them as in “ upgrade “. They are whiteline. Going to fit oe spec ones back on but keep the whiteline arb. Just for them to middle hole. At least solid ones can’t come apart unless they snap !!
try with magnet,it must be poor steel if they are
oem on newage are week,whiteline ones are super strong,had set 8 years with just surface rust on them
try with magnet,it must be poor steel if they are
oem on newage are week,whiteline ones are super strong,had set 8 years with just surface rust on them
the whitwline ones failed ??? The oem ones I took off were fine. Just picked up some oe ones off chap who built engine and he said that’s about the 5th set he’s that happened to. ! Never again. Probably made in china now.
i picked up new whiteline ones few months ago as I damaged rubber on old ones,think one old link i had 13 years-8y on previous car and 5y on recent.
That middle part looks like anodised alloy like their all anodised gold parts or maybe fake whiteline link.
Last edited by JdmSti2006; 09 March 2024 at 08:08 PM.
i picked up new whiteline ones few months ago as I damaged rubber on old ones,think one old link i had 13 years-8y on previous car and 5y on recent.
That middle part looks like anodised alloy like their all anodised gold parts or maybe fake whiteline link.
purchased direct from whiteline so I doubt it. Maybe just unlucky and there was a defect on it. Looking at the new ones which are steel and solid I can’t see how the whiteline with a small piece of machined alloy can be as strong really. Between thread and external wall is very thin. !
Another thing is their use of "squished" nuts on the droplinks, rather than locking nuts. I questioned WL UK about the nuts not being circular, but it is normal.
I've also found articulation varies massively on their droplinks. I had a pair where one flopped about all loose, whilst the other was so stiff it would barely move.
05 March 2024, 02:19 PM
Car feels woolly ( unstable )
