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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 01:05 PM
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Question FMIC: Perrin vs Japspeed

Im going to be buying an FMIC soon, i want to try and keep costs down but quality up. I have looked at these 2 intercoolers and there is not a lot of difference between the 2 apart from price. Japspeed £299 delivered and the Perrin £1600 delivered. With the perrin am i just paying for the name or is it really as good as it says? Im in no way going to exceed 600bhp so the bhp handeling of the 2 is not a problem. has any body had any expereance of the 2 or any charge temp figures?

Here is a list of features between the 2.

JAPSPEED

* Bar and plate intercooler 25x9x3.5 Inch.
* 3 Inch inlet and 3 Inch outlet.
* High flowing hand made end tanks.
* Fully TIG welded.
* Polished aluminium pipework.
* All necessary clamps and silicone hoses.
* Maximum cooling capacity while allowing for minimal pressure drops.
* 1050cfm @ 0.5 psi drop.
* Capable of handling up to 600BHP.

PERRIN

* Bar and plate intercooler 28x9.25x3.5 Inch.
* 2.25 Inch inlet and 2.75 Inch outlet.
* High flowing hand made end tanks.
* Fully TIG welded.
* Aluminium pipework.
* All necessary clamps and silicone hoses
* 1/4 psi drop across the core at 20 psi
* A volume of 906.5 cu-in
* Capable of more then 1000BHP

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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 01:11 PM
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personaly i;d speak to harvey about his, top guy and a good bit of kit
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 01:28 PM
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Hi Mike if you really want quality for reasonable price,good choice for you is HDI(which selling the Harvey).HDI are tested and proven by many people here.
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 01:28 PM
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Don't buy ANYTHING without talking to Harvey Smith first.

PM him on here, or e-mail him.
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 01:28 PM
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 02:31 PM
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im sure even if the cheaper one isnt AS good, youll have an extra £1300 to play around with to spend on other stuff which could recover any lost gains from the cheaper FMIC
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 05:47 PM
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i had the hdi installed on my 03 sti with md321t etc

i then installed the perrin and its a easier fit and looks better

perrin is 1200 not 1600 i got mine from scoobyclinic

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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by stevemoir
i had the hdi installed on my 03 sti with md321t etc

i then installed the perrin and its a easier fit and looks better

perrin is 1200 not 1600 i got mine from scoobyclinic

steve
Why did you change from the hdi to the Perrin ?
Just looks ?
Was there any differance in the performance between the two ?

Andy
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 07:17 PM
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I've got a Perrin one here waiting to go on my car and I got it for a whole lot less than £1200 quality looks amazing tbh. Very high class welds. The whole thing reeks of quality
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 07:19 PM
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The problem with newage HDI ones is how the pipe goes under the car, ive flattened mine on speed bumps
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by andy00v7
Why did you change from the hdi to the Perrin ?
Just looks ?
Was there any differance in the performance between the two ?

Andy
there wasnt any problems with the hdi just worried about the pipe going under the car

i also managed to knock 9 degrees of timing off compared to the hdi

so performance is better

also on a plus side i got to keep my original recirc dump valve

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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by B0DSKI
I've got a Perrin one here waiting to go on my car and I got it for a whole lot less than £1200 quality looks amazing tbh. Very high class welds. The whole thing reeks of quality
well you should tell everyone where you got the deal from. would of came in handy before i got mine

just watch out when you fit the coolant bottle

some slight fabrication in necessary

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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by stevemoir
well you should tell everyone where you got the deal from. would of came in handy before i got mine

just watch out when you fit the coolant bottle

some slight fabrication in necessary

steve
Mine was one that Graham Goode found in the back of the store room!! It didn't come with the coolant bottle but according to them it should fit ok with the OEM one in place.
I was also advised against the HDI one for the same reason as stated above.
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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by B0DSKI
Mine was one that Graham Goode found in the back of the store room!! It didn't come with the coolant bottle but according to them it should fit ok with the OEM one in place.
I was also advised against the HDI one for the same reason as stated above.
i dont think it will mate where the turbo pipe goes down the original coolant bottle is in its way

you might be able to just fabricate a coolant bottle its quite simple as it only has one hole in the top and the original coolant cap goes over to the new one

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Old Oct 11, 2010 | 11:06 PM
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Hi guys, thanks for all your replys, been doping a bit of reading and now my heart is telling me to go for the Perrin cooler as I see alot of people have gone for it and had great results. Tbh I would prefer to spend a bit more for security and the Perrin has proven results.

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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by stevemoir
i dont think it will mate where the turbo pipe goes down the original coolant bottle is in its way

you might be able to just fabricate a coolant bottle its quite simple as it only has one hole in the top and the original coolant cap goes over to the new one

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Looks like the pictures on the Perrin website show the FMIC fitted with the OEM coolant bottle in place
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 10:59 AM
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@bodski

the reason for this is that the instrcutions are for americanos

if you look at Page 3 section 17) you will see in the pic that the coolant bottle is situated on the drivers side and not the passenger side as with uk cars

http://www.perrinperformance.com/pro...ory=39&model=2

perrin have never issued uk instructions and probably wont
but i would think about getting in contact perrin them ask for ADAM

and he should be able to sort you out on the coolant bottle

hope this helps

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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 11:13 AM
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Would this be the coolent bottle you need mate for the perrin ?

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Originally Posted by stevemoir
@bodski

the reason for this is that the instrcutions are for americanos

if you look at Page 3 section 17) you will see in the pic that the coolant bottle is situated on the drivers side and not the passenger side as with uk cars

http://www.perrinperformance.com/pro...ory=39&model=2

perrin have never issued uk instructions and probably wont
but i would think about getting in contact perrin them ask for ADAM

and he should be able to sort you out on the coolant bottle

hope this helps

steve
Cheers Ste
I'll drop Adam @ Perrin an Email and see what he says.
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Originally Posted by H4RDY-P1
Would this be the coolent bottle you need mate for the perrin ?

Cheers for the PM Hardy I'll be in touch if Perrin confirm the OEM bottle won't be any good
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Old Oct 12, 2010 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by H4RDY-P1
Would this be the coolent bottle you need mate for the perrin ?

i would get hung draw and quartered if the woman walked in an saw an engine lumped in the kitchen! how do you manage it...
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