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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 06:42 PM
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hi all i have a 94 ra and was wondering if there is anyhing i can do to make my tappets quite?? i change the oil every 4000miles with shell 10w 60 racing oil and always putoil in the filter before i put it on. so just wondering what i could do to make the quite???????
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 08:14 PM
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I'm gonna be blunt.

There aren't any tappets so I suggest you take it to a garage.
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 08:17 PM
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sounds like the gaps on the solid lifters need adjusting if its from the top end if not then its bottem end and not good news fella as above get to a garage and listened to.
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 08:21 PM
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To be equally blunt, there are tappets, 16 of them. There are no rocker arms but tappets exist in OHC engines. See here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tappet

To the O/P, I believe Subaru (like most other modern engines) use hydraulic tappets or cam followers. These use engine oil pressure to take up the valve clearance. Hopefully someone will point you in the right direction for your problem as my car has just developed a noise fron the LH valve area.

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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 08:23 PM
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sounds like the gaps on the solid lifters need adjusting if its from the top end if not then its bottem end and not good news fella as above get to a garage and listened to.
Do all Imprezas use solid lifters?
Mine is a MY2000 btw.

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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 08:24 PM
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Ah the old Wikiwrongpedia. 'Cam followers' is the term I was always taught.
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by John 37
To be equally blunt, there are tappets, 16 of them. There are no rocker arms but tappets exist in OHC engines. See here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tappet

To the O/P, I believe Subaru (like most other modern engines) use hydraulic tappets or cam followers. These use engine oil pressure to take up the valve clearance. Hopefully someone will point you in the right direction for your problem as my car has just developed a noise fron the LH valve area.

John
this particular model has solid lifters with shims not hydraulic lifters mate.
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you sure its not your injectors making the noise
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by John 37
Do all Imprezas use solid lifters?
Mine is a MY2000 btw.

John
no only some use them most have hydraulic type cam followers mate
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Originally Posted by seddomyster
you sure its not your injectors making the noise
Good call.....
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by seddomyster
you sure its not your injectors making the noise
theyd be about fooked if there that loud he thinks its the tappets lol
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i suppose lol. my injectors are pretty loud
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by seddomyster
i suppose lol. my injectors are pretty loud
myn are quite loud to mate but not metalic noise loud lol.
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Old Sep 15, 2010 | 09:30 PM
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if he got good quality video he could post it up. i get paranoid at time with top end noise but those damn injectors. the joys!
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Deep breath,

Version 1~2 WRX has Hydraulic Lifters.
Version 2 STi has Lightweight Hydraulic Lifters.
Version 2 RA has 'top hat' under bucket shims.
Version 3~6 WRX has outer shim buckets.
Version 3~6 STi has under bucket shims.
Version 7 WRX/STi onwards have Selective buckets.

The hydraulic lifters do get clogged up with tarnish/debris over time, so the only cure if they are noisy is to remove them,strip and clean or replace if worn.
Pic of a stripped down lifter below,




Unusual for the inner shim type to be noisy,as the clearances tend to get smaller due to valve seat recession especially on the exhaust side.
As suggested above,could be noisy injectors or loose spark plugs,slight exhaust gas leak etc etc.

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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 07:36 PM
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Mick is the man,and should wear his pants on the outsidehe is a super man of knowledge
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 08:45 PM
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what about a 1997 uk turbo
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Sabas
what about a 1997 uk turbo
It's effectively the WRX sepc engine, so going by Mick's fab post (he never fails to amaze ), then it would appear it has outer shim buckets(?). Is that right Mick, or am I talking the proverbials?
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 09:11 PM
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I know that my injectors make a noise, is that normal?
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 09:15 PM
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I repeating ticking noise? If so, yeah it's a sound that does indeed sound like noisy tappets when the bonnet's up (or closed for that matter).
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 09:16 PM
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tbh the ej2o motor is quite noisey in general,just listen to that ken block subaru post on here and you'll hear that from cold start making a noise and even some piston slap[forged],and the injectors are quite loud yes on them all some more than others.
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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Yeah, the EJ motor is one rowdy bugger lol
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by prodriverules
Mick is the man,and should wear his pants on the outsidehe is a super man of knowledge
I have done a few of them EJ20 thingys now
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Originally Posted by merlin24
I have done a few of them EJ20 thingys now
LOL one or two ah Mick
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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by joz8968
It's effectively the WRX sepc engine, so going by Mick's fab post (he never fails to amaze ), then it would appear it has outer shim buckets(?). Is that right Mick, or am I talking the proverbials?
Yeah Joz - it is outer shim
2nd one in from the right.





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Old Sep 16, 2010 | 09:54 PM
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There you Sabas - your enquiry sorted by the Mickster (again!)
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Originally Posted by joz8968
Yeah, the EJ motor is one rowdy bugger lol

Can be a tad noisy at times






Sorry to the OP for going off post a bit .


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Originally Posted by merlin24
Can be a tad noisy at times






Sorry to the OP for going off post a bit .


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lol that reminds me when the big end failed - catastrophically! - on my 205 GTI 1.9... The conrod ended up on top of the alternator!!! I couldn't quite believe it!

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