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Old 29 October 2013, 07:17 AM
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hi all...only got my first Subaru this this year so just learning stuff at the moment so my questions may seem ridiculous

I've currently got a spec d with ppp and a little sticker saying 316bhp but earlier in the year I had another spec d with just a decat and a light remap(no ppp) which was a lot quicker not just to me but others too....could I just get a remap on my car now to give me abit more power as I believe the prodrive exhaust has a decat on my current car?...thanks...dave.
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Yeah remap would make a better car, I would suggest before the remap uprated spark plugs, uprated panel filter and fuel pump, total of that lot would be about £100 and would help with a better remap
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Cheers pal...what bhp can I expect after those things have been fitted? Also is the cost to power gained ratio worth it? Thanks bud
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Including remap
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you should see 330-340bhp mate
Old 29 October 2013, 11:22 AM
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Cheers brad....would that be a massive difference in performance with the extra 35-40bhp?
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You will defiantly feel the difference mate its not just the 30 or so bhp you need to look at, torque is more the figure you need to look at mate and if you do a few mods and take it to a good mapper you should see some good torque figures and defiantly feel a difference.
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sounds good....scott boy 80 recommended an uprated panel filter,spark plugs and fuel pump....which brands should I go for for each part?
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Walbro pump or better, ngk prf7 plugs, green Or k&n filter
Old 29 October 2013, 02:41 PM
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il have a look around.......thanks for your help
Old 29 October 2013, 03:31 PM
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mate get your car checked out - may not be running right - i could stick a sticker on mine saying 500bhp - but doesnt mean anything
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Its got the prodrive exhaust and a red pipe by turbo plus I've got the ppp certificate??Yeah was going to take it to a place in Blackpool for a rr to see what power it is running. ...the car is by no means slow was just expecting it to be just as quick or quicker than my last one which only had a remap??....the other one felt more responsive whereas than this one
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If your old one was an sti with a remap it prob would feel quicker tbh as it prob had more power and torque
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Hi brad....yeah there both sti's but the fella I got this one off was telling me its got a 2grand ppp fitted??...so im thinking now well whats the point when you could get an open source remap or ecutek remap for a fraction of the price....I no hes obviously trying to sell the car but the previous owner was the one who got it installed...why not just get decat an remap....like I said in first thread that might sound stupid to use but not me... ppp vs open source or ecutek?
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It's a money making thing for Subaru when they are new. You can choose to have this as an optional extra from factory so people tend to when new rather than driving from brand new to then fiddling with bits and getting An aftermarket remap, a ppp is got But obviously it's limited
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ahh right....but if it aint brand new then it would be a waste of money getting a ppp on a used car due to the cost and what you get for that money?
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Correct unless u got one for a few hundred second hand then it's worth it, as a good aftermarket map with few mods you will be touching nearly £1000
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what power is your car running?
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I've just got an sti v4 it's standard 280 atm mate just bought a house so can't afford to do anything to it :-(
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nice 1 pal
Old 29 October 2013, 11:28 PM
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Ngk ilfr7h are the plugs you need. As its a ppp it should already have a walbro in it.
Old 30 October 2013, 08:11 AM
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nice 1 gambit....those plugs and a panel filter then?....does the prodrive exhaust still have cats in which I could get removed but still pass mot?
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Hawkeye ppp still have the std catted downpipe. Your best option is look for a ppp sportcat that came on blobeye and bugeye ppp that way youll still pass mot. But you will need to map the car to run the sportcat so plan it out

Panel filter k&n is usually best of the bunch

Ive a Spec d running 330bhp on std downpipe but have a ppp sportcat waiting to fit when I can get squeezed in for map tweak

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how much more power you think you will get from adding sports cat?
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hopefully itd put it up around 340-350bhp, but the torque increase would be a lot greater probably up around 360-370lbft

thats on 97RON fuel as im in N.Ireland

bit more info on your PPP kit here:-
http://www.prodrive.com/up/06MY%20STi%20PPP.pdf

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that's interesting pal thanks....feel like blowing my December monthly pay on my car as I can get quite abit of a power increase which would be nice....getting the sportcat,panel filter,spark plugs and remap of course you think 350bhp is possible?its already got uprated fuel pump if its got ppp....tell the family my work messed my wages up....hate xmas anyway
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http://dsa.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_tr...at=0&_from=R40

are these the decats I should be lookin at?
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350 is possible yes

you want ppp sportcat like this
https://www.scoobynet.com/subaru-parts-451/988756-ppp-sports-cat-downpipe-decat-mid-pipe-newage.html

or if you can go full decat but you wont get through mot emissions with full decat
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cheers gambit
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