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Old 09 February 2005, 03:20 PM
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The following is a sample SCSI implementation plan for a site server:

Channel 1 - 4 volume RAID5 array for the SMS site database

Channel 1 - 2 volume RAID1 array for the Windows system files, the SQL Server master database, and the system's virtual memory paging file

Channel 2 - 6 volume RAID5 array for SMS

Channel 2 - 2 volume RAID1 array for the SMS SQL Server transaction log (write caching disabled)
Sample? Who the **** throws that many disks at SMS??

Ive got 6x36's

Its getting a mirror for the O/S and as for the rest?? Probably Raid 5 / ADG

Unless someone suggests something different..

dont really want two mirrors as I havent got any 72's spare to stick in.

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Old 09 February 2005, 10:47 PM
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14 drives? **** me
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14 drives? **** me
LOL... calm down, it's only a commercial

I must admit thats a rather obcene set up unless it's for business use. I have 4 drives racking up nigh on 1 TB but by todays standards that's nothing really. I laughed at our new work IT project that cost 25m that has about the same amount of storage that I have lol.. however, it's spread amongst 1000 users The cost still seems absolute pickitoutoftheair to me numbers though.

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theres a big difference between the drives used in industry and the ones you use at home.

Amount of storage isnt the issue, its how its provided and the redundancy.. also Fibrechannel disks / SCA etc... None of that SATA crap here

Pull two drives out of your 4 and see what happens!!

Does your pc email you or ring a support centre and order itself a new drive

Also backing up 1tb is expensive.

25m is expensive.

we have a IBM Total Storage ESS which was only around 100k iirc
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Indeed. Comparing a home games machine setup to a fully redundant, many-spindles, high-performance enterprise-class server for business use is quite hilarious.
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SG, how much of that 25m is "Consultancy fees" and how the heck do you backup 1TB of data reliably and cheaply.

David, are you going to cluster the SMS server?

Would be nice if Microsoft actually provided some benchmarks to back-up their recommendations.
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**** !!
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Originally Posted by ozzy
SG, how much of that 25m is "Consultancy fees" and how the heck do you backup 1TB of data reliably and cheaply.

David, are you going to cluster the SMS server?

Would be nice if Microsoft actually provided some benchmarks to back-up their recommendations.
I have 4 x 180gb drives, one is an external ezdisk, one back up in the pc and two for system and storage inside the pc too.
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Why do you need a TB at home??? must be a big news fan lol, I can barely manage 250 gig (I am unorganised!!!)
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my monthly download rate reaches 400gb quite often, it's at the point where i now have a Dat 40 drive at home.
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That's a lot of **** ................ for any man or woman
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Originally Posted by King RA
Why do you need a TB at home???
Because I can I have thousands of photos but not **** - and tens of thousands of soul tracks. I also have video footage that I take at soul events etc.

I have massess of software - it just all goes to gobble up the disk space
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..I'll let you off then


....now wheres that copy of maya graphics that I have absolutely no need for....ah it must be on my music apps DVD that I also have no use for
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we have 3000 + pcs running on 2 sata disks and its working fine, pushed ie6 acrobat6 and office 2k3, its gone down once and was rebuilt in hours ( bloody service packs )

all down to what you want from SMS
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I think we might be a little different, no way would we run it with 2 disks..

10xSMS 2k3 servers going in. (global too)

Nah, not clustering the server too expensive.. Fooking hate quorum drives too.

Anyway.. did a little swapping about, now got 2x 36gb15k U320 drives for OS and 4x 72gb 15k U320's for everything else.

This is going to be the central site server in the forrest root domain with hopefully no IP boundrys or ranges assigned.

Dual 3.2Ghz G4 DL380 and 2gb ram (2gb more to come)

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lol u don't want to see what we run SMS on ..

its proberbly not standard desktop class anymore
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