dpb

How is it possible that manufacturers are allowed to get away with charging what they do ?

it must be an even more profitable enterprise then apple themselves


its cheaper to keep buying refurb ( open box ) whole units with ink cartridge supplied than to buy ink refills , and just skip the old one

just how enviromental is that !

Felix.

My mate just buys a new printer.

You can pick them up for about £30 (printer, scanner, copier, fax - all in one). To buy a set of cartridges is about £40

So he will just buy a printer and when it runs out of ink, throw it away and buy another

Graz

Don't they ship them with cartridges that are only 1/3 full though? Thought that was the other part of the scam

Felix.

Apparently not, its just a wicked rumour. When you think, they cost only a few pence to make anyway - to get the machine to only fill a few half way would cost to much to do, so they just get the machine to make them all the same.

LostUser

Actually they do come with "starter" cartridges. These can be physically smaller and don't hold much ink. It's not that they're only partly full. When it's time to buy a replacement, it is possible to buy more starter cartridges but generally you'll find the high capacity or XL cartridges for sale in the shops. These hold alot more ink but cost alot more.

Even printers (inkjet and laser) leased on a commercial basis come with starter cartridges and subsequent cartridges sent from the supplier (as part of the lease agreement) are the high capacity cartridges.

dpb

Any refurb laser recommendations?

I print about 5 invoices a week

Littleted

i use the samsung 3175 its a laser and was sub 200 quid does a 1000 pages before they need changing, full toner set is 120 quid.. does scanning fax print, from device or PC, very good.

any of the newer Multi function will do you
http://www.samsung.com/uk/consumer/p...int-solutions/

had mine 4 years not missed a beat

dpb

Thanks, I believe however iv at last found something that is cost efficient


https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...uMUvOITwYzpShJ

Galifrey

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I just use cloned cartridges on my Epson.

P1Fanatic

We bought a Canon Pixma for £40. Genuine refills are £10 and £12 for b&w and colour respectively.

pimmo2000

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Mono laser .. pick one up for £30 on ebay and the toner is about the same, so for £60 you'll get a printer you'd basically never need to replace the ink on.

dpb

Thanks this maybe what I'll end up doing.
Mean time I've spent tenner on a syringe , black cyan magenta and yellow (100ml each) to fill cartridges
And so far it's worked

beardo47

Just buy compatible cartridges and stop moaning, mine cost me less than £1 each.

dpb

I would if they cost a quid , Mines pixma 3100

They're at least a tenner each as far as i know.

That's dearer than platinum

dpb

And nearly 9000% mark up

SwissTony

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One of the biggest scams going and for a while now !

I remember years ago when the cartel between printer manufacturers was exposed and all of them were slapped with a directive to stop this practice of closing down printers if it detects oem inks, setting the ink levels to be reporting low when in fact they were not by quite a large margin etc. All done by the chip in the cartridge. Did they do anything about it ? did they ****

So still it continues today, some are worse than others (HP and Epson)