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Old 01 January 2015, 10:19 PM
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Has this been advertised on any other forums? If so, does anybody have lists from them?
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Old 02 January 2015, 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by piehole1983 View Post
Has this been advertised on any other forums? If so, does anybody have lists from them?

There is a thread on RS 2.5 that has gotten a good amount of views, so I think there is interest.

A formal review of prototypes (especially compared to other springs available) will help to garner more attention, as well as pictures so people can see this isn't just vaporware.

Beyond that, I'm curious what the move will be if we can't draw enough numbers. Worst case scenario, we have enough to have one set of springs made, but which ones? 75 springs might have been overambitious.
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Old 02 January 2015, 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by qsl View Post
There is a thread on RS 2.5 that has gotten a good amount of views, so I think there is interest.

A formal review of prototypes (especially compared to other springs available) will help to garner more attention, as well as pictures so people can see this isn't just vaporware.

Beyond that, I'm curious what the move will be if we can't draw enough numbers. Worst case scenario, we have enough to have one set of springs made, but which ones? 75 springs might have been overambitious.
As previously stated, Eibach's minimum run is 25, per spring set.

We've reviewed all the spring sets we're going to test. The dampers have been measured.

https://www.scoobynet.com/suspension-...iscussion.html

We know the combinations we're trying to improve upon - ride height/spring rate/flat ride.

There's a WR15 prototype awaiting measurement at Eibach. The chief test pilot won't fit these, unless, the actual measurements match the design parameters.

Then, as you rightly say, we can review against our previous findings.

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Old 02 January 2015, 08:17 PM
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Update:

twistybits - P11-6
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piehole1983 - P11-6 (NI)
Rob669 P11-6
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2pot WR15 R/T
Scott.T WR15 R/T
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Geddesk2_2 WR15 R/T (US)
HighRevimpreza WR15 R/T (US)
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Old 09 January 2015, 08:39 PM
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Hey excuse my noobyness, is there 1 post that describes these 3 different springs or am I missing something?

On my 97 STI I just installed KYB AGX and RS-R lowering springs and they're too soft... wanted P1 but of course they're hard to come by.

NVM.... got it in post #182

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Originally Posted by gc8d4ed View Post
Hey excuse my noobyness, is there 1 post that describes these 3 different springs or am I missing something?

On my 97 STI I just installed KYB AGX and RS-R lowering springs and they're too soft... wanted P1 but of course they're hard to come by.

NVM.... got it in post #182
Hi
We've never measured the gc8 RS-R down springs. They're supposed to be 185/168lb/in.
P1 were 194/157 NOT 215/195
WR15 R/T 230/200

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I'm placing an order with Eibach tomorrow, for a batch of P11-6's - 9 week delivery.
WR15 R/T's will follow
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Originally Posted by 2pot View Post
I'm placing an order with Eibach tomorrow, for a batch of P11-6's - 9 week delivery.
WR15 R/T's will follow
any news on what bumpstops to use? Im fitting them to either Koni inserts or KYB AGX
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Originally Posted by 2pot View Post
I'm placing an order with Eibach tomorrow, for a batch of P11-6's - 9 week delivery. WR15 R/T's will follow
This is great news! I have my STI struts stripped, few bits getting plated, new seals, grease nipples fitted and a repaint. I must look in to bump stops as well now it's been mentioned again.
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Originally Posted by 2pot View Post
I'm placing an order with Eibach tomorrow, for a batch of P11-6's - 9 week delivery.
WR15 R/T's will follow

How does this work when we haven't got the 25 required signups?
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Originally Posted by qsl View Post
How does this work when we haven't got the 25 required signups?
Looks like 2pot is paying up front and taking the hit or else has enough orders from other forums combined.
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Originally Posted by qsl View Post
How does this work when we haven't got the 25 required signups?

Guess he must be ordering a batch of 25 and selling whats left after the group buy one have gone
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Originally Posted by topshot View Post
any news on what bumpstops to use? Im fitting them to either Koni inserts or KYB AGX
Hi

Bumpstop selection still being tested at Bilstein.

The P11-6 will work equally well with the kyb excel-g - you won't gain anything by buying the agx's(unless the agx's come with a lifetime guarantee?, like they do in the US).
The koni inserts are really nice.
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Originally Posted by 2pot View Post
I'm placing an order with Eibach tomorrow, for a batch of P11-6's - 9 week delivery.
WR15 R/T's will follow
So best estimation for turnaround for the WR15 R/T supposing no complications?

How to arrange payment?

And thank you.
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Old 15 January 2015, 08:36 PM
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Enough respect for the time and effort you guys have put into researching and testing different setups, proper dedication

Have been going crazy trying to work out what would work on my standard UK Turbo GF8, am I right in thinking that none of these spring/shock combos would work well on the wagon because of the extra weight she carries?
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Originally Posted by reef67 View Post
Enough respect for the time and effort you guys have put into researching and testing different setups, proper dedication Have been going crazy trying to work out what would work on my standard UK Turbo GF8, am I right in thinking that none of these spring/shock combos would work well on the wagon because of the extra weight she carries?
I could be wrong but I think there's a reference to the wagon somewhere in here or else the other technical questions thread about this. I don't think there's a huge difference in weight either. The WR15 springs might be what you're after.
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Originally Posted by reef67 View Post
Enough respect for the time and effort you guys have put into researching and testing different setups, proper dedication

Have been going crazy trying to work out what would work on my standard UK Turbo GF8, am I right in thinking that none of these spring/shock combos would work well on the wagon because of the extra weight she carries?
I drive a wagon. You don't think I'd do all this, and not address the saggy **** effect. The springs are wagon compliant
The difference between an empty and a full tank of fuel, makes more difference than the extra weight of a wagon.
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Hey 2pot? Has the order been placed then?

If so, when do you need paid and how?
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Originally Posted by piehole1983 View Post
Hey 2pot? Has the order been placed then?

If so, when do you need paid and how?
It has indeed.

I won't be collecting any monies, until I see them in Eibach's warehouse!
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I drive a wagon. You don't think I'd do all this, and not address the saggy **** effect. The springs are wagon compliant
The difference between an empty and a full tank of fuel, makes more difference than the extra weight of a wagon.
That's great news! I was kind of wondering - just thought you must have some kind of suspension 'thing' going on
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Originally Posted by piehole1983 View Post
I could be wrong but I think there's a reference to the wagon somewhere in here or else the other technical questions thread about this. I don't think there's a huge difference in weight either. The WR15 springs might be what you're after.
Nice one, i'll have a trawl back through the thread.
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Originally Posted by 2pot View Post
It has indeed. I won't be collecting any monies, until I see them in Eibach's warehouse!
Nice. I look forward to it! Could you remind me of how much they were again please? Remember I live in NI!
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Originally Posted by qsl View Post
So best estimation for turnaround for the WR15 R/T supposing no complications?

How to arrange payment?

And thank you.
9 weeks lead time, from order. Still awaiting a prototype that measures, as designed, for road testing.

As mentioned earlier, I won't be collecting any monies, until I see them in Eibach's warehouse.
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I'd like to put my name down for a set of P11-6

(looks like I copied from the wrong place, real list next post)

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twistybits - P11-6
topshot - P11-6
Scooby Wagon - P11-6
piehole1983 - P11-6 (NI)
Rob669 P11-6
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OBSTi P11-6 (US)


2pot WR15 R/T
Scott.T WR15 R/T
qsl WR15 R/T (US)
Geddesk2_2 WR15 R/T (US)
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About 7 weeks to go 2pot?
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About 7 weeks to go 2pot?
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Assuming I've read the thread right and that these springs are the right ones I'd like a set of the P11-6 to go on my GF8 please.

twistybits - P11-6
topshot - P11-6
Scooby Wagon - P11-6
piehole1983 - P11-6 (NI)
Rob669 P11-6
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OBSTi P11-6 (US)
Laupy P11-6

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Scott.T WR15 R/T
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Eacy WR15 R/T (Denmark)
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any news on what bumpstops to use? Im fitting them to either Koni inserts or KYB AGX


Originally Posted by 2pot View Post
Hi

Bumpstop selection still being tested at Bilstein.

The P11-6 will work equally well with the kyb excel-g - you won't gain anything by buying the agx's(unless the agx's come with a lifetime guarantee?, like they do in the US).
The koni inserts are really nice.
Talking bumpstops, for twin-tube dampers:

1. Would people prefer the bumpstops hidden inside the strut boots?
2. Or the bumpstop on show, with the strut boot attaching to the bumpstop, so you can easily check degradation?
3. Whichever bumpstop combination gives a neutral balance starting point? Probably necessitating/allowing a smaller diameter/or softer setting on the rear sta bar - for increased rear suspension independence: better traction and comfort.

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For those of us unfamiliar, could you explain the significance of bumpstops in improving handling, how much the new bumpstops will cost, and how they bias the car towards neutral handling wise?

And when you say smaller diameter rear sway bar, about what range?

Grtz.
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