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Old 10 June 2013, 12:35 PM
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Thank you Tidgy, exactly the point I was trying to make




Old 10 June 2013, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by his-n-her-scoobs
Was removed within 30 seconds as it was not a response to your observation, nice to see you were watching my every word so avidly tho, that refresh button must be working overtime
The point I am so unsuccessfully trying to make is that banning guns is not going to prevent violent crime.
2 points
1. Banning guns will result in only the law abiding citizens not having guns
2. Anyone that decides he is going to kill people is going to find a way regardless of whether guns are legal or not. Look at the amazing weapons manufactured by inmates of most criminal institution.
So if someone decides to go on a killing spree in a shopping precinct with a car what are you going to do, ban cars? Car owners are not even required to undertake the most basic of criminal or psychological tests.


.Not that I care either way, but this isn't anything to do with violent criminal offenders, it's to do with miss contended adolescents being taken down the range by their parents ( since its their god given right to have a gun )and then the keys to the rifle cupboard left around
Old 10 June 2013, 12:58 PM
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Exactly! A p!ssed-off teenager in the UK just listens to Slipknot, a p!ssed-off teenager in the States goes on a killing spree at school/college using his Dad's gun(s).

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Old 10 June 2013, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by his-n-her-scoobs
Was removed within 30 seconds as it was not a response to your observation, nice to see you were watching my every word so avidly tho, that refresh button must be working overtime
The point I am so unsuccessfully trying to make is that banning guns is not going to prevent violent crime.
2 points
1. Banning guns will result in only the law abiding citizens not having guns
2. Anyone that decides he is going to kill people is going to find a way regardless of whether guns are legal or not. Look at the amazing weapons manufactured by inmates of most criminal institution.
So if someone decides to go on a killing spree in a shopping precinct with a car what are you going to do, ban cars? Car owners are not even required to undertake the most basic of criminal or psychological tests.


Thomas Hamilton was law abiding citizen, right up until the moment he walked into Dunblane school and blew away the lives of 16 children with a GUN

imagine what he would have done with an assult rifle

the comparisons between Switzerland is a red hearing
Old 10 June 2013, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ReallyReallyGoodMeat
Exactly! A p!ssed-off teenager in the UK just listens to Slipknot, a p!ssed-off teenager in the States goes on a killing spree at school/college using his Dad's gun(s).
Gun's arn't as accessible in US as some Scandinavian countrys, so the idea that its because they are just doesn't hold any water. The education system for them are totlay different, thats the issue.
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anyway I agree with Shaid - let them get on with it
Old 10 June 2013, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
Gun's arn't as accessible in US as some Scandinavian countrys, so the idea that its because they are just doesn't hold any water. The education system for them are totlay different, thats the issue.
but like canada, this principle cultural use for them is hunting wild animals not people
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
but like canada, this principle cultural use for them is hunting wild animals not people

So its education thats differnt then
Old 10 June 2013, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
Gun's arn't...
Just, no.

as accessible in US as some Scandinavian countrys, so the idea that its because they are just doesn't hold any water. The education system for them are totlay different, thats the issue.
They are not immune to the occasional rampage either - Anders Brevik for example, or http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...entre-shooting
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=16104607

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Old 10 June 2013, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ReallyReallyGoodMeat
Just, no.



They are not immune to the occasional rampage either - Anders Brevik for example, or http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009...entre-shooting
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=16104607

Guns are regulated in the US, just not as strictly as here for example.

yes there are incidents, but you hihglight the important point, 'occasional', alot fewer incidents happen compared to the US.
Old 10 June 2013, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
Guns are regulated in the US, just not as strictly as here for example.

yes there are incidents, but you hihglight the important point, 'occasional', alot fewer incidents happen compared to the US.
Well, that may just be because there's 300 million Americans versus a few million Scandanavians
Old 10 June 2013, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
So its education thats differnt then
well yes in part, but I think it goes a little deeper than that tbh
Old 10 June 2013, 02:18 PM
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