Porsche 991
26 December 2012, 12:35 PM
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John Banks, yes it is man maths at its best!
Does anybody know how this 'telephone module' works? Is it bluetooth? I switched on blue tooth on my phone and a picture of a sim card comes up on the display.
How does it work?
Thanks
Does anybody know how this 'telephone module' works? Is it bluetooth? I switched on blue tooth on my phone and a picture of a sim card comes up on the display.
How does it work?
Thanks
26 December 2012, 12:36 PM
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John Banks, yes it is man maths at its best!
Does anybody know how this 'telephone module' works? Is it bluetooth? I switched on blue tooth on my phone and a picture of a sim card comes up on the display.
How does it work?
Thanks
Does anybody know how this 'telephone module' works? Is it bluetooth? I switched on blue tooth on my phone and a picture of a sim card comes up on the display.
How does it work?
Thanks
26 December 2012, 12:41 PM
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Before anyone jumps on me, this is not a criticism, just a question.
Why is it that manufacturers cannot standardise on which way you push a level to change up or down a gear when it comes to semi auto!!??
I'm far from a racing driver, but I have been in a few cars and ALL racing cars I have ever seen that have a true manual sequential box have push forward for down, and pull back for up.
I climb out of one car (mine) that I pull back to change up, to get into another that when I do the same thing drops gears. Its almost as bad as someone fitting a "sports" steering wheel where you turn left to go left if its one make and right to turn left if its another.
I really struggle with this, and Porsche really do seem to have it the wrong way round. Anyone have a reason why they did it like this? (and yes there are other manufacturer's that have it this way too, I know).
Why is it that manufacturers cannot standardise on which way you push a level to change up or down a gear when it comes to semi auto!!??
I'm far from a racing driver, but I have been in a few cars and ALL racing cars I have ever seen that have a true manual sequential box have push forward for down, and pull back for up.
I climb out of one car (mine) that I pull back to change up, to get into another that when I do the same thing drops gears. Its almost as bad as someone fitting a "sports" steering wheel where you turn left to go left if its one make and right to turn left if its another.
I really struggle with this, and Porsche really do seem to have it the wrong way round. Anyone have a reason why they did it like this? (and yes there are other manufacturer's that have it this way too, I know).
Its a pain in the **** and Porsche have it wrong. Its not a matter of getting used to it, its unintuitive and should be the other way (wish someone knew a way to reverse it) Ding may struggle with it too coming from an M3. I use the paddles 95% of the time when in manual but some occasions you can get mixed up too as they move with the wheel and its easier to just reach for the stick but then you have to remember which way to push it. If the stick was the right way round i would use it alot more ala sequential shift
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26 December 2012, 12:42 PM
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I have not yet been able to slide the rear of the 991. The easiest car to slide the back end was the GTS4. Both my GT3s could be slid around, but not as easily as the GTS4 even with its 4WD.
26 December 2012, 12:47 PM
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26 December 2012, 12:51 PM
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The 991 slides a bit too easy in the wet, pretty hard in the dry but if the tyres are cold it will slide. On track i could only get it to slide on cold tyres at the first hairpin from the pits at Bedford, after that it needed a fair bit of provocation but i keep getting told off as Bedford have turned into bores along with the rest of the uk tracks
26 December 2012, 01:03 PM
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Its a pain in the **** and Porsche have it wrong. Its not a matter of getting used to it, its unintuitive and should be the other way (wish someone knew a way to reverse it) Ding may struggle with it too coming from an M3. I use the paddles 95% of the time when in manual but some occasions you can get mixed up too as they move with the wheel and its easier to just reach for the stick but then you have to remember which way to push it. If the stick was the right way round i would use it alot more ala sequential shift
Maybe if I ever have the money to get one of these fine cars they will have sorted it by then. Till then, glad you are enjoying yours
26 December 2012, 04:10 PM
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Yes, it is counter intuitive. The lever on the M5 worked the right way for up and down shifts but as the others I'll use the paddles 95% of the time.
Full auto mode (with sport activated) isn't bad for pootling around my own back streets but does shift up really quickly. Probably just right for the daily peak hour town grind though.
The power band is interesting on this car, you get what almost feels like a little turbo boost just as you are approaching the redline!
Cornering is really nice, it feels so flat. But then I am used to driving a barge now so my point of reference isn't great.
Can't see why anybody drives a cabriolet though, road noise is fatiguing and rear visibility very poor.
Sorry, I'm rambling on a bit......
Full auto mode (with sport activated) isn't bad for pootling around my own back streets but does shift up really quickly. Probably just right for the daily peak hour town grind though.
The power band is interesting on this car, you get what almost feels like a little turbo boost just as you are approaching the redline!
Cornering is really nice, it feels so flat. But then I am used to driving a barge now so my point of reference isn't great.
Can't see why anybody drives a cabriolet though, road noise is fatiguing and rear visibility very poor.
Sorry, I'm rambling on a bit......
26 December 2012, 05:04 PM
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The 991 slides a bit too easy in the wet, pretty hard in the dry but if the tyres are cold it will slide. On track i could only get it to slide on cold tyres at the first hairpin from the pits at Bedford, after that it needed a fair bit of provocation but i keep getting told off as Bedford have turned into bores along with the rest of the uk tracks
26 December 2012, 05:25 PM
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My C4 has only been caught out on one roundabout, but I kinda guessed it as it was wet and getting cold(er)......
What did catch me out was a shed load of under steer as I went round a corner in town, and the front kept going! Didn't think I was going that quick, but must have been too much for the conditions....
That said, the grip is fantastic on these Contis. Will have a go in the 991 during the next year.
Dan
What did catch me out was a shed load of under steer as I went round a corner in town, and the front kept going! Didn't think I was going that quick, but must have been too much for the conditions....
That said, the grip is fantastic on these Contis. Will have a go in the 991 during the next year.
Dan
26 December 2012, 06:23 PM
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The LSD on mine is great - only taken me 18 months to push it that bit further!
Trailing the throttle into a corner brings on a touch of understeer, power on at the apex and the LSD and superb traction sort of smears the rear tyres round the bend.
Ding - you should get a Porsche Experience session at Silverstone with your purchase.
This'll give you a great opportunity to drive the same car as yours on the small track and the low-grip surfaces with an instructor.
I was blown away at how good my car was on the tight track (3rd gear if you're lucky at one point!) using the throttle to steer.
The 991 will be at another level.
Trailing the throttle into a corner brings on a touch of understeer, power on at the apex and the LSD and superb traction sort of smears the rear tyres round the bend.
Ding - you should get a Porsche Experience session at Silverstone with your purchase.
This'll give you a great opportunity to drive the same car as yours on the small track and the low-grip surfaces with an instructor.
I was blown away at how good my car was on the tight track (3rd gear if you're lucky at one point!) using the throttle to steer.
The 991 will be at another level.
26 December 2012, 06:48 PM
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The LSD on mine is great - only taken me 18 months to push it that bit further!
Trailing the throttle into a corner brings on a touch of understeer, power on at the apex and the LSD and superb traction sort of smears the rear tyres round the bend.
Ding - you should get a Porsche Experience session at Silverstone with your purchase.
This'll give you a great opportunity to drive the same car as yours on the small track and the low-grip surfaces with an instructor.
I was blown away at how good my car was on the tight track (3rd gear if you're lucky at one point!) using the throttle to steer.
The 991 will be at another level.
Trailing the throttle into a corner brings on a touch of understeer, power on at the apex and the LSD and superb traction sort of smears the rear tyres round the bend.
Ding - you should get a Porsche Experience session at Silverstone with your purchase.
This'll give you a great opportunity to drive the same car as yours on the small track and the low-grip surfaces with an instructor.
I was blown away at how good my car was on the tight track (3rd gear if you're lucky at one point!) using the throttle to steer.
The 991 will be at another level.
Thanks Zip. I was thinking exactly this, ie this is one car I should really learn to drive from an expert on a track.
Should I ask about this experience day before I hand over the money or does everybody just get it?
Cheers and Merry Xmas
26 December 2012, 08:13 PM
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I'd ask, just to make sure they know that you know....
I'm not 100% sure you still get given it - perhaps Trout can confirm?
If you do still get it, I don't think they start the sessions again until February.
I'm not 100% sure you still get given it - perhaps Trout can confirm?
If you do still get it, I don't think they start the sessions again until February.
26 December 2012, 09:53 PM
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BTW in mine the phone is Bluetooth based, which works really well and syncs my phone book - it works using the right stalk and the in-dial display. Very good integration. I believe there is a SIM based prep - you need to check which one you have.
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30 December 2012, 09:12 AM
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Just out of interest in the latest evo there is a full review of the Carrera 4S. They like it very much - it gets 5 stars.
What I don't know is whether evo have ever driven a non-PDCC car. The criticism they point at the 2S is not something I experience with my car which does not have PDCC.
What I don't know is whether evo have ever driven a non-PDCC car. The criticism they point at the 2S is not something I experience with my car which does not have PDCC.
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