scooby lude

just trying to get some prices on ad08 will let you know what price when i find some.

scooby_greg24

Mate, I am in the same boat. Everyone says different things and i am lost as to what tyres to get for my classic. Surely theres one or 2 overall tyres that are the best????

bonesetter

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How many tyres have folk who have posted views here tried?

Galifrey

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I mentioned GY F1's on another thread and people slated them, glad they are back in vogue again

MrNoisy

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In the nicest possible manner, why don't you **** off pal?
I stated a simple fact - read the ****ing stickies in the forum that say to use the search - it's not rocket science (even for someone of limited mental capacity).
It spoils it for anyone who can be bothered to use the search in future, because all they get returned are hundreds of results for one post threads saying "what tyres should I buy".

For example an almost exact same conversation has had here many moons ago (by me in fact!):
https://www.scoobynet.com/wheels-tyr...es-to-buy.html

scooby lude

yes but tyres come and go and just asking for up to date advice. have search before and i got it down after about 80 mins searching , to toyos and f1s ,just wondering now which ones so thats why im asking . im not a young lad im 45 and would like some up to date news on them.

ScoobySteve69

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But tyre technology changes all the time and so do people`s opinions A while back when I asked, the Vredestein Sessantas were the dogs b@llocks, now there`s others in the mix so it`s sometimes worth asking the question. If people are happy to reply and help then so be it. People don`t need miserable tw@ts like you moaning

Galifrey

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I think he is still a Vredie fanbois

his-n-her-scoobs

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Oh wow! so you are so important you can ask the same question you are moaning about, without anyone moaning at you, good for you.

And what a sterling example too, a two year old post with test results and prices from 4 years ago. No mention of any of the modern contenders such as the Uniroyal Rainsport 2 (good or bad). If you draw a line in the sand the forum will die.

If you have nothing positive to contribute to the forum then do everyone a favour and don't contribute at all. As mentioned before Get a Life

MrNoisy

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I'm sure if you got off your fat arsenal instead of pissing and moaning at me, you could find a better one Mr / Mrs high and mighty. Now you've got off your soapbox, why don't you tell us all about these new tyres and technologies then, because at the moment I've seen nothing new in this post that hasn't been posted 100 times before.

Whilst Steve's points are valid, there's only a point if you guys end up discussing the new ones.
If you don't know any why don't you refer the OP to a decent conversation with balanced arguments.
And guess what, I bet you could find a recent one using the search LMAO.
I await your doubtless sarcastic reply.
Meanwhile, I'll have a look for the OP later for some helpful comments seeing that nobody has told you about the downside of Toyo T1R's.

his-n-her-scoobs

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Who's on a soap box, and rude with it?

https://www.scoobynet.com/wheels-tyr...sport-2-a.html

Posted by a helpful member with actual experience of said tyre. Recent enough for you, or didn't you do a search before posting the challenge?

I think you will find that the op already has a set of these, if you had read the original post instead of going into rant mode. Think he was looking for comparisons and recomendations before forking out a chunk of money on replacements.

I await your doubtless rude reply

Scooby Dan

I fitted Vredestein Ultrac Sessantas to my 450 bhp hawkeye and when they were new I loved them . However , now they are half worn they are sliding all over the road in the wet .

his-n-her-scoobs

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Eagle F1's do this as well although I noticed that my set manufactured in Thailand were worse than my wifes set (identical size, same year Scooby) which were made in Germany. They got a lot lower on tread before going off, but they went off very noticeably and suddenly

Sti Addict

I had very good results with Falken ze912 on a classic, was going to go for 452's but decided to try these, I was very pleasantly suprised, also going through a massive puddle unexpectedly, didnt feel a thing.

Now I have a bug with Toyo t1r's and I hate them with a passion.

Will trying Michelin Pilot sport 3 next.

But just wondering what are the best tryres ever (money no object)?

MrNoisy

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I haven't noticed my Vreddies letting up like my Eagle F1's did, but then I don't have 450bhp to play with!
However, I can definitely say that my 328bhp bug sticks to the road better with the Sessantas than it did at 250bhp on Eagle F1's.
I think once you get into the 400's you might need something a bit more special!

I hear very good things about Pilotsports.
Uniroyal Rainsports are apparently still too new for anyone to offer an opinion.
Toyos - don't bother, unless you have R888's in the dry
Goodyear Eagles - ok but overpriced for what they are in my experience.
Falken 452's - people seem to think these are ok as a budget tyre but a couple of the guys in my local Scoob club said they wouldn't take them on track as they're not good enough.

Hope that helps.

MrNoisy

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Errr - that would have been you - hence my pointing it out


Now who needs to get a life? It was a simple statement that you should use the search, and an illustration of what you can find if you look.
Not a very balanced view in the link above, but yes that IS the idea - well done, big pat on the back for you

Also, try these:
https://www.scoobynet.com/wheels-tyr...available.html
https://www.scoobynet.com/wheels-tyr...se-people.html
https://www.scoobynet.com/wheels-tyr...ent-tyres.html

Whilst they might not be the newest threads on earth I suspect you'll find that tyre technology hasn't moved on that much since a lot of these posts and most of these brands are still available.
Hope they will be of some assistance.

Perhaps you should revisit the thread yourself if you think you're the victim here, you weren't exactly polite to me now were you?
Pot kettle perhaps?

Anyway, apologies to the OP for hijacking the thread but I hope some of the links above will help you make an informed decision.
Apologies if I came across a bit strong to ya initially about using the search but hopefully some of the above will illustrate what you can find - there really are some gems on here.
Also, haven't looked but have you tried Scoobypedia?

his-n-her-scoobs

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Apology accepted And my apologies to the OP too. It's what makes this forum so good

So you noticed the F1's give up early too, I wasn't just imagining it then?

Hearing good things about the Rainsports on the ClioSport forums and the...ahem...Fiesta forums so may give them a go when my current set of F1's start to slide too much

bonesetter

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^ +1 everything said.

I've tried F1's on 4 different scoob's. They're OK.

T1R's on a big BHP new Age, and a big'ish bhp classic. Pretty poor.

452's. Better than the two above

AD08's blow all the above

Only tried 888's on a bike powered kit car. Can't really rate them. Once track hot they turn to jelly.

I have it on blood reputation the Pilot Sports are very good, although not tried

Galifrey

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Which F1's, how old, and what size, there are many to choose from.

GSD1,2,3, AS1, AS2, some of them have a poor wear rate, and they certainly aren't a mid budget tyre like the 452's, which are average at best. The Current As2's are rated by many testers as one of the Best UHP tyre on the market, along with the PS3's and Conti Sport Contact 5's. They are running them on 1500-2000kg cars with no issues, but some here say the sidewalls are too soft for a 1300kg Scoob..

I have also used Toyo 888's on my BEC Kitcar, but they don't melt if you get the tyre pressures right.



Tried Falken 912's which are great on a light car (modded 205 GTi with a GTI6 and Plate Diff),



but not so good on heavier performance cars IMHO and only average in the wet.

Currently running Avon ZV5's which many slag off, but they have been amazing on my 17 inch rims, in the wet they haven't let go once in anyway when doing high speed roundabout circuits, I failed to even induce any Lift off oversteer at speeds that were getting quite dangerous for the wet tbh.

T1R's again a good budget tyre, but not as good as T1 Sports, and IMHO not as good as the Falken 452's.

Great thing about tyres is everyone has an opinion, and only other peoples stink

Only thing I can say for sure, is sub 3mm tread all of them suck in the wet

scooby lude

100 percent correct, i do have these at present and was looking for advice before wasting money.

his-n-her-scoobs

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Sti Addict

My tyres are due to be changed quite soon, will post post my thoughts on the Michelin Pilot Sport 3 when they are scrubbed in.

davedipster

I got my second set of Michelin ps3's fitted in Jan this year, can't fault them even in the cold they seem good.

dipster

davedipster

Money no object, has to be Michelin ps3's they are dam expensive unless like me you get them from Costco with the -20% off offer.

dipster

bonesetter

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Unless you have experience with an expensive tyre, or a reliable recommendation, it's quite a leap of faith. Although it does seem Michelin's are being increasingly fitted OE to high end motors

For those running the PS's can you share any other tyre experiences you could compare these to...

jay knowles

The tyres that i have used over last few years, bridgestone reo40,s and the 50,s thought both were good, t1r,s were complete crap on my car and didn,t realise how bad until i put original wheels and tyres back on when i sold the car.T1 s were a good improvement over the t1 r even though they were the older model tyre. Running michelin ps 2 at the moment and still bedding them in but very feel really good in the wet and dry.From memory both sets of bridgestones were also very good

MrNoisy

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I've run GSD2's, GSD3's and Asymmetrics.
I found all had extremely poor wear rates.
The GSD2's had better grip levels than the 3's in my opinion, but of course they don't make em anymore.
Asymmetrics a little better, but I found all of them slid with very little provocation at higher speed cornering, and yes the sidewalls are far too fragile, even on the supposedly reinforced ones.

In comparison the Vredestein Sessantas don't slide in the same situation, and the wear rates are better.

Also bought Avon ZV's on the ex-missus's car, and found them very good grip-wise, although they do seem to suffer from punctures - not sure whether that was down to the tyre design or just bad luck on our part.

TBH based on what I hear, the T1R's are average at best, and you can't really describe them as budget if the Falkens come in about £15 per corner cheaper!

This is why I've continued with the Sessantas, because they're effectively a good compromise between price and performance - they're good enough for road and track, and don't deteriorate as badly as Toyos or Goodyears at lower grip levels - whilst wearing much better - all in my own experience and personal opinion of course.

Galifrey

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T1R's are a mid budget tyre, so are Falkens, and like I said, I rate the Falkens better.

Fair enough on the F1's, I know they wear faster, had assumed this was a softer tyre thing, haven't had the high speed grip issues you have, but that is likely down to differences between cars/sizes.

Haven't had any punctures yet, but noted

Probably havent noted any substantial shotfalls in my tyres yet as I still have 2 pot front brakes

REVOLUTION

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Give me a shout as we stock loads of these and we have tried these against T1-Rs and theyre in a different league yoko's are miles better!!

best wet grip is Goodyear F-1 assymetric 2's but just been superceeded by 3's..

Hope that helps
keith@revolution247.com
T: 0191 4619200

oobyJu

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y'all talk too much when the dude is asking a simple question just tell him your experience then searching these threads would be much easier and avoid this in future
goodyear F1 thought these were dangerous, lasted well and quiet but grip grip gone no warning especially when worn
Toyo T1S good in dry with right pressure (36+) soft but predictable quite different in the wet still ok but the difference can surprise the unwary
heard good things about falken gonna try them next