RaceDynamix .. Time Attack Club Pro 2010 .. Project
Having had the luxury of having a nose around and a sit in the car yesterday, All I can say is...
Awesome
I really didn't think I'd get quite as excited as I did about a few bits of metal welded together
, But it really is a work of art as is the switch panel.
Very very nice
Awesome
I really didn't think I'd get quite as excited as I did about a few bits of metal welded together
, But it really is a work of art as is the switch panel.Very very nice
You can enter TA if you like for a bit of fun, but even in club there are some fairly well tuned cars. It's also quite expensive. Just under £300 to enter one round and you get nearly no track time for that. But it is a bit of a laugh to do.
Go on the TA website and look around.
www.timeattack.co.uk
Sprinting might be better, its a lot cheaper, but then you don't get to do any laps, it's just a minute or so and it's all over.
Go on the TA website and look around.
www.timeattack.co.uk
Sprinting might be better, its a lot cheaper, but then you don't get to do any laps, it's just a minute or so and it's all over.
The impression of race ready and actually being race ready are two very different things. Once you start getting on track and racing it shows up floors in the build and obviously drivers.
People who say they are super fast on the road, just aren't that fast, you can't push a car on the road to it's limit. Then track day heroes think they are fast too, but until you are out there with other really fast drivers you have no idea.
When I first started racing bikes I thought I was fast. Then I had 16 year old coming past me like I was standing still. It took ages and ££££ to get to their level, let alone start winning races.
Subaru cup is a good way forward, but a lot on here won't enter wheel to wheel with their car as it owes them so much and they don't want to damage it (me included). I would be gutted after throwing so much of my own hard earned money into the car (well not that hard). And then there is all the development thats gone into it by Chevron, it runs to £1000s. But as a TA, track, sprint car its just awsome.
People who say they are super fast on the road, just aren't that fast, you can't push a car on the road to it's limit. Then track day heroes think they are fast too, but until you are out there with other really fast drivers you have no idea.
When I first started racing bikes I thought I was fast. Then I had 16 year old coming past me like I was standing still. It took ages and ££££ to get to their level, let alone start winning races.
Subaru cup is a good way forward, but a lot on here won't enter wheel to wheel with their car as it owes them so much and they don't want to damage it (me included). I would be gutted after throwing so much of my own hard earned money into the car (well not that hard). And then there is all the development thats gone into it by Chevron, it runs to £1000s. But as a TA, track, sprint car its just awsome.
The impression of race ready and actually being race ready are two very different things. Once you start getting on track and racing it shows up floors in the build and obviously drivers.
People who say they are super fast on the road, just aren't that fast, you can't push a car on the road to it's limit. Then track day heroes think they are fast too, but until you are out there with other really fast drivers you have no idea.
When I first started racing bikes I thought I was fast. Then I had 16 year old coming past me like I was standing still. It took ages and ££££ to get to their level, let alone start winning races.
Subaru cup is a good way forward, but a lot on here won't enter wheel to wheel with their car as it owes them so much and they don't want to damage it (me included). I would be gutted after throwing so much of my own hard earned money into the car (well not that hard). And then there is all the development thats gone into it by Chevron, it runs to £1000s. But as a TA, track, sprint car its just awsome.
People who say they are super fast on the road, just aren't that fast, you can't push a car on the road to it's limit. Then track day heroes think they are fast too, but until you are out there with other really fast drivers you have no idea.
When I first started racing bikes I thought I was fast. Then I had 16 year old coming past me like I was standing still. It took ages and ££££ to get to their level, let alone start winning races.
Subaru cup is a good way forward, but a lot on here won't enter wheel to wheel with their car as it owes them so much and they don't want to damage it (me included). I would be gutted after throwing so much of my own hard earned money into the car (well not that hard). And then there is all the development thats gone into it by Chevron, it runs to £1000s. But as a TA, track, sprint car its just awsome.
Really what mean't to say is I'm surprised more poeple don't buld a car with that end in mind in the first place rather than spending a fortune on something they'll never get full use out of and certainly won't recoupe that investment when they choose to sell the car.
To me this is poor value for money.
After all there are lots of rough cheap Imprezas about and the limited mods allowed in the 'production' class would mean lots of people could go racing for a reasonable cost plus it should be possible to recoupe aleast some of the funds by selling a 'race ready' car.
As you say racing on the roads is not really feasible and is really only proof of who's prepared to take the biggest risk not any sort of skill.
And I know what you mean about bike racing (although it applies across the board) when I first went from club racing to the then Supercup (now SS600) the difference was scary, big motorhomes, bigger budgets and the top ten bikes seperated by less than .25 sec really put my tranny van and 4 year old CBR in to perspective.
I think Jon and I get full use out of our Subarus 
As Jon says there is a huge difference between quick on the road and quick on a track day and then a huge difference between that and TA - took me a full season (and a bit) to understand how to do TA and get the best out of the car and me (and still learning lots)

As Jon says there is a huge difference between quick on the road and quick on a track day and then a huge difference between that and TA - took me a full season (and a bit) to understand how to do TA and get the best out of the car and me (and still learning lots)
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The impression of race ready and actually being race ready are two very different things. Once you start getting on track and racing it shows up floors in the build and obviously drivers.
People who say they are super fast on the road, just aren't that fast, you can't push a car on the road to it's limit. Then track day heroes think they are fast too, but until you are out there with other really fast drivers you have no idea.
When I first started racing bikes I thought I was fast. Then I had 16 year old coming past me like I was standing still. It took ages and ££££ to get to their level, let alone start winning races.
Subaru cup is a good way forward, but a lot on here won't enter wheel to wheel with their car as it owes them so much and they don't want to damage it (me included). I would be gutted after throwing so much of my own hard earned money into the car (well not that hard). And then there is all the development thats gone into it by Chevron, it runs to £1000s. But as a TA, track, sprint car its just awsome.
People who say they are super fast on the road, just aren't that fast, you can't push a car on the road to it's limit. Then track day heroes think they are fast too, but until you are out there with other really fast drivers you have no idea.
When I first started racing bikes I thought I was fast. Then I had 16 year old coming past me like I was standing still. It took ages and ££££ to get to their level, let alone start winning races.
Subaru cup is a good way forward, but a lot on here won't enter wheel to wheel with their car as it owes them so much and they don't want to damage it (me included). I would be gutted after throwing so much of my own hard earned money into the car (well not that hard). And then there is all the development thats gone into it by Chevron, it runs to £1000s. But as a TA, track, sprint car its just awsome.
Remember, if you have sponsors, you are getting paid. I reckon my sponsors gave me more than I earnt last year if I had to pay for what they gave. Age is against most of us though. You have to make your mark early in motorsport these days to pick up a waged drive or ride. I'm way past it. As you get older, it's harder to give up a job to earn less on the off chance that you might win and keep your drive.
I'd rather stay with my 9-5 job and pretty good wage and have a hobby, than mortgage my house and risk it for a few seasons low to mid level racing.
I'd rather stay with my 9-5 job and pretty good wage and have a hobby, than mortgage my house and risk it for a few seasons low to mid level racing.
. Age is against most of us though. You have to make your mark early in motorsport these days to pick up a waged drive or ride. I'm way past it. As you get older, it's harder to give up a job to earn less on the off chance that you might win and keep your drive.
I'd rather stay with my 9-5 job and pretty good wage and have a hobby, than mortgage my house and risk it for a few seasons low to mid level racing.
I'd rather stay with my 9-5 job and pretty good wage and have a hobby, than mortgage my house and risk it for a few seasons low to mid level racing.
It will only ever be a hobby to me, a expensive hobby at that, but most hobbies can get expensive if you get properly into them, Hi-Fi, model trains even keeping Koi carp can all get silly expensive, I know I've been there (well not the trains
).I suppose I'm lucky to be in a position to be able to give it a go, even if it is probably the lowest level of track based motorsport, but I suppose that's the way of things by the time you get the opportunity to do it your to old !!!
Here's to 'giving it a go' in whatever discipline you choose.
Last edited by budd; Apr 16, 2010 at 12:05 AM.
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Yep 
Done:
- fitted new bonnet
- fitted windscreen
- fitted rear polycarbonate screen (cheers for the help Mr Fulbrook
)
- made dash panel to cover ecu
- both seats in
- extinguisher in and connected
- scuttle tray done
- steering wheel on
Picked up the new doors yesterday afternoon from ABW - they are superbly light and with the glass that arrived yesterday from Plastics4Performance will save me around 100 kilos I reckon.
Set about getting them on the car last night and they are all mounted and just one lock / handle to go before they are complete.
Tim is heading over here today to help me the last few bits..
1. fit side windows
2. fit aerocatches
3. fit mirrors
4. oil change
5. wire elec cut out switch
and if time..
1. fit perrin front anti roll bar
2. sort some proper mounts for splitter
3. wire hazards switch
Then I can put some stickers back on it to make it look a bit like it did before and give it a clean.

Done:
- fitted new bonnet
- fitted windscreen
- fitted rear polycarbonate screen (cheers for the help Mr Fulbrook
- made dash panel to cover ecu
- both seats in
- extinguisher in and connected
- scuttle tray done
- steering wheel on
Picked up the new doors yesterday afternoon from ABW - they are superbly light and with the glass that arrived yesterday from Plastics4Performance will save me around 100 kilos I reckon.
Set about getting them on the car last night and they are all mounted and just one lock / handle to go before they are complete.
Tim is heading over here today to help me the last few bits..
1. fit side windows
2. fit aerocatches
3. fit mirrors
4. oil change
5. wire elec cut out switch
and if time..
1. fit perrin front anti roll bar
2. sort some proper mounts for splitter
3. wire hazards switch
Then I can put some stickers back on it to make it look a bit like it did before and give it a clean.









