scoobyclinics turbo's just got billet I mean better!
Hi,
just tested the all new SC36 Billet twin scroll and WOW !
What a spooler, data logging on the road shows 1bar at 2665 RPM and its on full tilt by 3000 RPM,

Boost and afr.

This engine is a standard spec "C" lump in a classic GC8, running on an STI top mount, engine management is Syvecs, the car was already on an early SC42 billet twin scroll and a 20% meth mix, so the above graphs are also on a 20% meth mix, methanol usually adds around 10% BHP.
The above turbo is the all new SC36 (B) Billet twin scroll, its one of two new SC36 T/S units we are trying, this one has a bigger turbine wheel as used in our SC42 strapped to a 36 Billet comp wheel, wonder what the smaller turbine version will spool like.
cheers
Kev
just tested the all new SC36 Billet twin scroll and WOW !

What a spooler, data logging on the road shows 1bar at 2665 RPM and its on full tilt by 3000 RPM,


Boost and afr.

This engine is a standard spec "C" lump in a classic GC8, running on an STI top mount, engine management is Syvecs, the car was already on an early SC42 billet twin scroll and a 20% meth mix, so the above graphs are also on a 20% meth mix, methanol usually adds around 10% BHP.
The above turbo is the all new SC36 (B) Billet twin scroll, its one of two new SC36 T/S units we are trying, this one has a bigger turbine wheel as used in our SC42 strapped to a 36 Billet comp wheel, wonder what the smaller turbine version will spool like.

cheers
Kev
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I got the offer of syvecs ecu at the right money recently and also a fantastic offer i couldnt refuse from Kev at the scoobyclinic to fit and map the new ecu in my car,i thought it was awesome before but now its just out of this world,many thanks to Kev and the team for the oustanding service i have recieved everytime i have been to see them.
Syvecs ecu,SC42 billet,V-power and 20% meth mix @ 1.85bar.
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Last edited by WhiteWagonMan; Feb 12, 2012 at 04:31 PM.
As Harvey said it has a small rubber pipe and I usually have it on the turbo before fitment and then slip it down the block return pipe as I fit the turbo as it can be a real pain to get it between the 2 ends when the turbo is in place.
WhiteWagonMan,
Forgive my ignorance, but looking back at your previous run they appear to be virtually the same as your current one with a top goon ECU..... unless your Syvecs was free that is.
What ECU were you using before?
Regardless, the graphs look nice.
Forgive my ignorance, but looking back at your previous run they appear to be virtually the same as your current one with a top goon ECU..... unless your Syvecs was free that is.

What ECU were you using before?
Regardless, the graphs look nice.
Shaun, that's what I thought, too.
But perhaps Glenn means that the Syvecs makes the car more driveable/smoother, etc.? And perhaps he has more torque over more of the rev range? (can't be bothered to hunt the old graph out).
I think he was on Simtek before(?) - does the Syvecs have greater resolution and/or better boost control?
But perhaps Glenn means that the Syvecs makes the car more driveable/smoother, etc.? And perhaps he has more torque over more of the rev range? (can't be bothered to hunt the old graph out).
I think he was on Simtek before(?) - does the Syvecs have greater resolution and/or better boost control?
Last edited by joz8968; Feb 13, 2012 at 08:44 PM.
]Much harder to pull up imo.
Shaun, that's what I thought, too.
But perhaps Glenn means that the Syvecs makes the car more driveable/smoother, etc.? And perhaps he has more torque over more of the rev range? (can't be bothered to hunt the old graph out).
I think he was on Simtek before(?) - does the Syvecs have greater resolution and/or better boost control?
But perhaps Glenn means that the Syvecs makes the car more driveable/smoother, etc.? And perhaps he has more torque over more of the rev range? (can't be bothered to hunt the old graph out).
I think he was on Simtek before(?) - does the Syvecs have greater resolution and/or better boost control?
take a look at the boost trace and you will see how superior the boost control is, and the AFR trace.
Cheers
Kev
would you like an overlay Shaun, you will see the difference then.

Cheers
Kev
to be fair Joz you are both wrong and right, if Sonic wants to run dump valve less he can but it will shorten the life of the turbo and its main shaft is at risk, unlike the larger shaft used in the SC42 up wards.
As a weekend car it will probably be fine, its a risk that only the owner can take, I run DV less but mines an SC54 and its had plenty of use with no issue, quite how the SC40 Billet will fair I don't know.

Cheers
Kev
Hi,
to be fair Joz you are both wrong and right, if Sonic wants to run dump valve less he can but it will shorten the life of the turbo and its main shaft is at risk, unlike the larger shaft used in the SC42 up wards.
As a weekend car it will probably be fine, its a risk that only the owner can take, I run DV less but mines an SC54 and its had plenty of use with no issue, quite how the SC40 Billet will fair I don't know.
Cheers
Kev
to be fair Joz you are both wrong and right, if Sonic wants to run dump valve less he can but it will shorten the life of the turbo and its main shaft is at risk, unlike the larger shaft used in the SC42 up wards.
As a weekend car it will probably be fine, its a risk that only the owner can take, I run DV less but mines an SC54 and its had plenty of use with no issue, quite how the SC40 Billet will fair I don't know.

Cheers
Kev
Yeah, I run a VTA DV simply because I can't be arsed to faff about
and fashion a return for a recirc DV (car has a FMIC so a recirc DV would not be cited in the OEM position).So am 'happy' to put up with, ahem, "undesirable #whoosh# noises"
, if it means I get extended reliability/life from the 20g.
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Agreed the graphs are very close power/torque wise at the top but i did gain 20bhp and 20ftlbs at 4500rpm with less boost so that can only be a plus factor,the car was ballistic before and is even more so now.
The simtek i had in my car before did not control the center diff in my 6 speed dccd box but the syvecs does,this has made a world of difference to the driveability as the ecu now controls the diff on the fly making the car so smooth to drive in any sittuation,the car is no longer *** end happy and does not try to kill me as it did before.
No the syvecs wasnt free but the sale of the simtek almost paid for it,and with the deal i got from Kev and the clinic team i would have been a fool to refuse,obviousley i was right to accept as the results speak for themselves.
Glad you like the graph.
Glenn.
Last edited by WhiteWagonMan; Feb 14, 2012 at 06:30 PM.
the MD series starts with Marks version of our SC42 Billet, so yes they are as strong.
The SC40 is a sleeve bearing 20 G Billet which uses a Mitsubishi core rather than the Garrett used in our SC42 upwards and the MD range.
Cheers
Kev






