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Old Feb 10, 2012 | 06:46 PM
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sorry on ur sc40
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Old Feb 10, 2012 | 07:09 PM
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I will definitely be ordering an sc42. Unfortunately it won't be for a few months yet though, got a house to finish first
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Old Feb 10, 2012 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by The Gaffer
Hi,

just tested the all new SC36 Billet twin scroll and WOW !

What a spooler, data logging on the road shows 1bar at 2665 RPM and its on full tilt by 3000 RPM,






Boost and afr.





This engine is a standard spec "C" lump in a classic GC8, running on an STI top mount, engine management is Syvecs, the car was already on an early SC42 billet twin scroll and a 20% meth mix, so the above graphs are also on a 20% meth mix, methanol usually adds around 10% BHP.

The above turbo is the all new SC36 (B) Billet twin scroll, its one of two new SC36 T/S units we are trying, this one has a bigger turbine wheel as used in our SC42 strapped to a 36 Billet comp wheel, wonder what the smaller turbine version will spool like.

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Looks awesome as always Kev!
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Old Feb 10, 2012 | 07:51 PM
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WOW ...Fantastic result Kev,cant wait to see how the other two perform now.
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Old Feb 10, 2012 | 08:31 PM
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Kev, when do you reckon you'll get round to testing the new SC42 (and 46?) B/TS's (with the latest genuine TS housing and volutes etc.)? And on a 2.0L without AVCS?
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 01:36 PM
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I got the offer of syvecs ecu at the right money recently and also a fantastic offer i couldnt refuse from Kev at the scoobyclinic to fit and map the new ecu in my car,i thought it was awesome before but now its just out of this world,many thanks to Kev and the team for the oustanding service i have recieved everytime i have been to see them.

Syvecs ecu,SC42 billet,V-power and 20% meth mix @ 1.85bar.

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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 01:58 PM
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Jesus H Christ!

For a turbo designed for 420 ponies, it is epic!

Congrats on the power

I'm sure JGM has just fainted lol
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 07:18 PM
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hi kev fitting one of ur sc40 s fitted gt specs up pipe now how do i get the oil return pipe on? what a pain

also how safe is it to run dv less?
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 07:52 PM
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Oil return should have a short rubber pipe going on the oil return from the turbo and this gives you a degree of flexibility.
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 07:55 PM
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As Harvey said it has a small rubber pipe and I usually have it on the turbo before fitment and then slip it down the block return pipe as I fit the turbo as it can be a real pain to get it between the 2 ends when the turbo is in place.
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 08:32 PM
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WhiteWagonMan,
Forgive my ignorance, but looking back at your previous run they appear to be virtually the same as your current one with a top goon ECU..... unless your Syvecs was free that is.

What ECU were you using before?

Regardless, the graphs look nice.
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 08:39 PM
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Yea got the short Lil hose on and got turbo sitting right on top of hose but can't get it on?
So prodriverule u think might be Easyier on turbo 1st then on to block?
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 08:43 PM
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Shaun, that's what I thought, too.

But perhaps Glenn means that the Syvecs makes the car more driveable/smoother, etc.? And perhaps he has more torque over more of the rev range? (can't be bothered to hunt the old graph out).

I think he was on Simtek before(?) - does the Syvecs have greater resolution and/or better boost control?

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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by sonic93
Yea got the short Lil hose on and got turbo sitting right on top of hose but can't get it on?
So prodriverule u think might be Easyier on turbo 1st then on to block?
Yes mate as you can push it down with a long screw driver from the top side[nice unsharp end one]
Much harder to pull up imo.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by joz8968
Shaun, that's what I thought, too.

But perhaps Glenn means that the Syvecs makes the car more driveable/smoother, etc.? And perhaps he has more torque over more of the rev range? (can't be bothered to hunt the old graph out).

I think he was on Simtek before(?) - does the Syvecs have greater resolution and/or better boost control?
Hi,

take a look at the boost trace and you will see how superior the boost control is, and the AFR trace.

Cheers
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Shaun
WhiteWagonMan,
Forgive my ignorance, but looking back at your previous run they appear to be virtually the same as your current one with a top goon ECU..... unless your Syvecs was free that is.

What ECU were you using before?

Regardless, the graphs look nice.
Hi,

would you like an overlay Shaun, you will see the difference then.

Cheers
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 10:35 AM
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kev it safe to run dv less on ur sc40 ?
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by sonic93
kev it safe to run dv less on ur sc40 ?

Hi,

not recommended, the SC42 upwards are fine though.

Cheers
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 11:53 AM
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Oh really ahhh really didn't wanna use my hks again . How bad will it affect it ? It's w.e car
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 12:03 PM
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Sorry sonic, I told you wrong then.

But it was based on what I had gleaned on this forum.

So apologies, and just disregard my post then.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by sonic93
Oh really ahhh really didn't wanna use my hks again . How bad will it affect it ? It's w.e car
Originally Posted by joz8968
Sorry sonic, I told you wrong then.

But it was based on what I had gleaned on this forum.

So apologies, and just disregard my post then.
Hi,

to be fair Joz you are both wrong and right, if Sonic wants to run dump valve less he can but it will shorten the life of the turbo and its main shaft is at risk, unlike the larger shaft used in the SC42 up wards.

As a weekend car it will probably be fine, its a risk that only the owner can take, I run DV less but mines an SC54 and its had plenty of use with no issue, quite how the SC40 Billet will fair I don't know.

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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by The Gaffer
Hi,

to be fair Joz you are both wrong and right, if Sonic wants to run dump valve less he can but it will shorten the life of the turbo and its main shaft is at risk, unlike the larger shaft used in the SC42 up wards.

As a weekend car it will probably be fine, its a risk that only the owner can take, I run DV less but mines an SC54 and its had plenty of use with no issue, quite how the SC40 Billet will fair I don't know.

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Got it Kev - the bit in bold explains it!


Yeah, I run a VTA DV simply because I can't be arsed to faff about and fashion a return for a recirc DV (car has a FMIC so a recirc DV would not be cited in the OEM position).

So am 'happy' to put up with, ahem, "undesirable #whoosh# noises" , if it means I get extended reliability/life from the 20g.

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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by The Gaffer
Hi,

take a look at the boost trace and you will see how superior the boost control is...

Cheers
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That peak boost is amazingly plateau'd, i.e. stable, from full boost to redline!

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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by The Gaffer
Hi,

would you like an overlay Shaun, you will see the difference then.

Cheers
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The other graph was done in 3rd and this latest one was 4th.... so yeah, I would expect differences in the shape, although I suspect the actual end result would of been nigh on the same (curve wise) had it been the same gear.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 01:11 PM
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Are these not as strong as td series turbo s ? Don't really wanna chance the risk really suppose it the hks then .
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaun
WhiteWagonMan,
Forgive my ignorance, but looking back at your previous run they appear to be virtually the same as your current one with a top goon ECU..... unless your Syvecs was free that is.

What ECU were you using before?

Regardless, the graphs look nice.
Hi Shaun,

Agreed the graphs are very close power/torque wise at the top but i did gain 20bhp and 20ftlbs at 4500rpm with less boost so that can only be a plus factor,the car was ballistic before and is even more so now.

The simtek i had in my car before did not control the center diff in my 6 speed dccd box but the syvecs does,this has made a world of difference to the driveability as the ecu now controls the diff on the fly making the car so smooth to drive in any sittuation,the car is no longer *** end happy and does not try to kill me as it did before.

No the syvecs wasnt free but the sale of the simtek almost paid for it,and with the deal i got from Kev and the clinic team i would have been a fool to refuse,obviousley i was right to accept as the results speak for themselves.

Glad you like the graph.

Glenn.

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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by sonic93
Are these not as strong as td series turbo s ? Don't really wanna chance the risk really suppose it the hks then .
Hi,

the MD series starts with Marks version of our SC42 Billet, so yes they are as strong.

The SC40 is a sleeve bearing 20 G Billet which uses a Mitsubishi core rather than the Garrett used in our SC42 upwards and the MD range.

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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 05:41 PM
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hmm people seem to run 20gs with dv less with no probs? ok sweet cheers kev
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 06:01 PM
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hi kev, has any body ran an sc54 on a 2.5, and if so what were the results like? cheers
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 06:40 PM
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Quick question, probably been covered but what is the maximum limit on the SC42 billet?
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