08/09 Hatches, Stand up and show yourselves!!!
14 November 2016, 11:02 AM
Scooby Regular
handling mods , exhaust and bov
hi guys had my car built by alan jefries engine tuner about a year ago love it , but now I think its about time for some handling mods. im looking into the Scooby world handling stage 3 or 4 handling kit, which is one of the options, as it seamsquite comprehensive and the hopefully would be most of the underside done, has anyone here had the kit fitted to their sti?
also I want to get the Litchfield steering feed back kit, or whatever its called from whet I understand it weights up the steering, to get rid of the vague lifeless feel the Scooby has, does anyone know whats involved here or had the kit fitted, ive ordered from Subaru a 2015 / spec c steering rack to be fitted its a common mod in the states and wondering if anyone has done it over here yet? I need to get a new power steering pump first tho as mine is getting rather noisy. also ive seen offers on roll bars and other parts like eibach arbs and perrin parts how do these compare to the whiteline parts and what diameter arbs are people running? because there are a few different sizes also I assume you would have a fatter arb on the rear compaired to the front ?
exhaust. I have been running about 400 hp through my 330s catback for about a year, and at first I thought it was good to have it really quiet, but now I just want more theatre and drama it pops and bangs occasionally now but you don't really get any subie rumble, what exhausts are you guys running or would you recommend ?
and finally I realised the other day that the standard recirc valve is only rated to 20psi and on high boost I run over that so I have been looking into the gfb recic/ bov mainly because its black to match the mishimoto cooler ive got, anybody had any experience with these im looking to get a conefilter on there soon and just want that flutter to go with the cone filter suck lol.
any reply's would be greatly appreciated
Alex
also I want to get the Litchfield steering feed back kit, or whatever its called from whet I understand it weights up the steering, to get rid of the vague lifeless feel the Scooby has, does anyone know whats involved here or had the kit fitted, ive ordered from Subaru a 2015 / spec c steering rack to be fitted its a common mod in the states and wondering if anyone has done it over here yet? I need to get a new power steering pump first tho as mine is getting rather noisy. also ive seen offers on roll bars and other parts like eibach arbs and perrin parts how do these compare to the whiteline parts and what diameter arbs are people running? because there are a few different sizes also I assume you would have a fatter arb on the rear compaired to the front ?
exhaust. I have been running about 400 hp through my 330s catback for about a year, and at first I thought it was good to have it really quiet, but now I just want more theatre and drama it pops and bangs occasionally now but you don't really get any subie rumble, what exhausts are you guys running or would you recommend ?
and finally I realised the other day that the standard recirc valve is only rated to 20psi and on high boost I run over that so I have been looking into the gfb recic/ bov mainly because its black to match the mishimoto cooler ive got, anybody had any experience with these im looking to get a conefilter on there soon and just want that flutter to go with the cone filter suck lol.
any reply's would be greatly appreciated
Alex
14 November 2016, 02:11 PM
litchfield pump mod is just a weaker spring in the pressure relief valve.
have a look at replacing the rear bush on the front wishbone - they are rubber void crap. subaru changed these to pillowball style for MY11 onwards but they are not a direct fit into MY08-10 wishbones. but you can get the likes of these which ive fitted https://www.powerflex.co.uk/road-ser...able/1625.html
havent done anything with rollbars except just polybush them. MY11 cars use 1mm thicker bars front and rear, and these can be retrofitted. all depends how stiff you want the car to be
how do you know the std dump valve is only rated to 20psi?
have a look at replacing the rear bush on the front wishbone - they are rubber void crap. subaru changed these to pillowball style for MY11 onwards but they are not a direct fit into MY08-10 wishbones. but you can get the likes of these which ive fitted https://www.powerflex.co.uk/road-ser...able/1625.html
havent done anything with rollbars except just polybush them. MY11 cars use 1mm thicker bars front and rear, and these can be retrofitted. all depends how stiff you want the car to be
how do you know the std dump valve is only rated to 20psi?
14 November 2016, 02:41 PM
Scooby Regular
I realised the other day that the standard recirc valve is only rated to 20psi
You don't need to! At full throttle there is equal boost pressure on both sides of the piston, so it doesn't matter what boost level you are running, the pressure balances itself out. It then requires very little spring pressure to stay shut. The spring adjustment is used to match the VACUUM signal of the car. The idea is to adjust the valve so that the piston remains just closed at idle. This way, when you lift off the pedal, the spring will be neutralized so that the boost is free to push the piston open.
14 November 2016, 04:03 PM
Scooby Regular
How do I adjust the spring pressure to suit different boost levels?
You don't need to! At full throttle there is equal boost pressure on both sides of the piston, so it doesn't matter what boost level you are running, the pressure balances itself out. It then requires very little spring pressure to stay shut. The spring adjustment is used to match the VACUUM signal of the car. The idea is to adjust the valve so that the piston remains just closed at idle. This way, when you lift off the pedal, the spring will be neutralized so that the boost is free to push the piston open.
You don't need to! At full throttle there is equal boost pressure on both sides of the piston, so it doesn't matter what boost level you are running, the pressure balances itself out. It then requires very little spring pressure to stay shut. The spring adjustment is used to match the VACUUM signal of the car. The idea is to adjust the valve so that the piston remains just closed at idle. This way, when you lift off the pedal, the spring will be neutralized so that the boost is free to push the piston open.
14 November 2016, 04:10 PM
Scooby Regular
litchfield pump mod is just a weaker spring in the pressure relief valve.
have a look at replacing the rear bush on the front wishbone - they are rubber void crap. subaru changed these to pillowball style for MY11 onwards but they are not a direct fit into MY08-10 wishbones. but you can get the likes of these which ive fitted https://www.powerflex.co.uk/road-ser...able/1625.html
havent done anything with rollbars except just polybush them. MY11 cars use 1mm thicker bars front and rear, and these can be retrofitted. all depends how stiff you want the car to be
how do you know the std dump valve is only rated to 20psi?
have a look at replacing the rear bush on the front wishbone - they are rubber void crap. subaru changed these to pillowball style for MY11 onwards but they are not a direct fit into MY08-10 wishbones. but you can get the likes of these which ive fitted https://www.powerflex.co.uk/road-ser...able/1625.html
havent done anything with rollbars except just polybush them. MY11 cars use 1mm thicker bars front and rear, and these can be retrofitted. all depends how stiff you want the car to be
how do you know the std dump valve is only rated to 20psi?
.. If I buy the scooby worl kit does it not include those bushes in the anti lift kit ? There is also a Perrin kit that replaces a few bushes to create slightly more caster are these the bushes in question ? And do you know what diameter arbs you have? I'm sick of the barge like body roll lol
14 November 2016, 04:58 PM
I would look at the subframe inserts for a start. Makes a huge difference to the back end. I've done them along with the diff void fillers and the Arb bushes and whiteline front wishbone rear bushes. Make a noticeable difference.
14 November 2016, 05:33 PM
Sorted!
Was the throttle body, motor seemed to stop moving butterfly.
Swapped out for one off ebay to test, car no longer drops to idle / no throttle action and actually feels back to her 500 bhp/lbft best - so seems like has been slowly failing for a few months!
Swapped out for one off ebay to test, car no longer drops to idle / no throttle action and actually feels back to her 500 bhp/lbft best - so seems like has been slowly failing for a few months!
14 November 2016, 06:57 PM
Just spotted this after your other thread, Glad its sorted. Had a couple of failures recently. Mostly on the diesels though and a couple of foresters. I think personally the gearing wears inside and looses its motor positioning vs Butterfly position, some wouldn't even Idle and just died as soon as started. But as there a sealed unit I guess its bin fodder.
14 November 2016, 09:33 PM
Scooby Regular
from
http://www.scoobymods.com/showthread...rth-12353.html
But then again I can't really shout too much
14 November 2016, 09:41 PM
15 November 2016, 09:00 AM
litchfield pump mod is just a weaker spring in the pressure relief valve.
have a look at replacing the rear bush on the front wishbone - they are rubber void crap. subaru changed these to pillowball style for MY11 onwards but they are not a direct fit into MY08-10 wishbones. but you can get the likes of these which ive fitted https://www.powerflex.co.uk/road-ser...able/1625.html
havent done anything with rollbars except just polybush them. MY11 cars use 1mm thicker bars front and rear, and these can be retrofitted. all depends how stiff you want the car to be
how do you know the std dump valve is only rated to 20psi?
have a look at replacing the rear bush on the front wishbone - they are rubber void crap. subaru changed these to pillowball style for MY11 onwards but they are not a direct fit into MY08-10 wishbones. but you can get the likes of these which ive fitted https://www.powerflex.co.uk/road-ser...able/1625.html
havent done anything with rollbars except just polybush them. MY11 cars use 1mm thicker bars front and rear, and these can be retrofitted. all depends how stiff you want the car to be
how do you know the std dump valve is only rated to 20psi?
15 November 2016, 11:21 PM
They are a good job but they can give a lot of nvh especially in form of dash rattles so youll probably need to foam back the dash binnacle at least.
Im assuming youre roads are a crap as those in belfast!
Later OE wishbones & bushes have larger pillow ball but with rubber outer to give best of both worlds.
Im assuming youre roads are a crap as those in belfast!
Later OE wishbones & bushes have larger pillow ball but with rubber outer to give best of both worlds.
16 November 2016, 03:52 PM
They are a good job but they can give a lot of nvh especially in form of dash rattles so youll probably need to foam back the dash binnacle at least.
Im assuming youre roads are a crap as those in belfast!
Later OE wishbones & bushes have larger pillow ball but with rubber outer to give best of both worlds.
Im assuming youre roads are a crap as those in belfast!
Later OE wishbones & bushes have larger pillow ball but with rubber outer to give best of both worlds.
16 November 2016, 09:31 PM
No experiences of any others but i think whiteline and superpro makes polybush kits for them
Though there are solid rubber ones made by 2 companies but cant remember their names, ill dig them out, they are a copies of the original group n bush which id looked at replacing the powerflex ones with if nvh becomes too much. Subaru later revised the group n bush to a metal pillow ball bush which is totally unusable in a road car
Though there are solid rubber ones made by 2 companies but cant remember their names, ill dig them out, they are a copies of the original group n bush which id looked at replacing the powerflex ones with if nvh becomes too much. Subaru later revised the group n bush to a metal pillow ball bush which is totally unusable in a road car
16 November 2016, 09:39 PM
Scooby Senior
anyone tried these on their Hatch?
Brembo discs?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brembo-Xtr...kAAOSwgmJXyD2g
Brembo discs?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brembo-Xtr...kAAOSwgmJXyD2g
17 November 2016, 09:22 AM
anyone tried these on their Hatch?
Brembo discs?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brembo-Xtr...kAAOSwgmJXyD2g
Brembo discs?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brembo-Xtr...kAAOSwgmJXyD2g
17 November 2016, 11:22 AM
The 2 solid rubber offerings are:-
http://www.tomiokaracing.com/index.p...or-subaru.html
http://www.meganracing.com/products/...=1597&catid=97
Which i think would be perfectly suitable for a daily driver. only thing you do not get is the increased caster
http://www.tomiokaracing.com/index.p...or-subaru.html
http://www.meganracing.com/products/...=1597&catid=97
Which i think would be perfectly suitable for a daily driver. only thing you do not get is the increased caster
17 November 2016, 08:27 PM
That`s great Gambit; thank you very much.
I`ve got another problem.... drivers side tail gate light cluster was on today, as the modified fog light is in it ( jdm) but it was white light. The clear bulb had been felt tipped red to be a fog light , by the importer, but it is not red at all. Can you get a red 585 bulb for this , or do I have to have a red lense or overlay? Red doesn`t go with yellow very well.
The importers handed over the car with the wrong dipped headlight bulbs in it, so I am pissed off to say the least; they must have a tame MOT tester......
I could have been pulled for this.
The other tailgate lense is allowing in water; does it have a seal or gasket?
Thanks
I`ve got another problem.... drivers side tail gate light cluster was on today, as the modified fog light is in it ( jdm) but it was white light. The clear bulb had been felt tipped red to be a fog light , by the importer, but it is not red at all. Can you get a red 585 bulb for this , or do I have to have a red lense or overlay? Red doesn`t go with yellow very well.
The importers handed over the car with the wrong dipped headlight bulbs in it, so I am pissed off to say the least; they must have a tame MOT tester......
I could have been pulled for this.
The other tailgate lense is allowing in water; does it have a seal or gasket?
Thanks
17 November 2016, 09:17 PM
Correct wattage and voltage for a rear fog 585 would be good, if anyone can help, as there seem to be lots of options....many thanks
17 November 2016, 10:54 PM
17 November 2016, 11:44 PM
I fitted these with no nvh
http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_...CA334&sq=21047
http://www.whiteline.com.au/product_...CA334&sq=21047
18 November 2016, 09:39 AM
ive this LED Fog in mine, and it even shines bright enough through smoked overlays to pass a N.Ireland MOT (which are government run MOT centres!)
18 November 2016, 12:00 PM
http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/ABD...DGE-WHITE.html
ive this LED Fog in mine, and it even shines bright enough through smoked overlays to pass a N.Ireland MOT (which are government run MOT centres!)
ive this LED Fog in mine, and it even shines bright enough through smoked overlays to pass a N.Ireland MOT (which are government run MOT centres!)
18 November 2016, 12:07 PM
18 November 2016, 08:43 PM
Scooby Regular
18 November 2016, 11:35 PM
The only speed they're supposed to be accurate is up to 30mph (by law).
As said, for all other increments above that, the slight overread is deliberately built in by the manufacturer. I assume it's to ensure you DEFINITELY stay within speed limits (only works if you're a law abiding citizen, of course).
As said, for all other increments above that, the slight overread is deliberately built in by the manufacturer. I assume it's to ensure you DEFINITELY stay within speed limits (only works if you're a law abiding citizen, of course
).
Last edited by joz8968; 19 November 2016 at 11:16 AM.
19 November 2016, 10:20 AM
The only speed they're supposed to be accurate is up to 30mph (by law).
As said, for all other increments above that, the slight overread is deliberately built in by the manufacturer. I assume it's to ensure you definitely stay within speed limits (only works if you're a law abiding citizen, of course).
As said, for all other increments above that, the slight overread is deliberately built in by the manufacturer. I assume it's to ensure you definitely stay within speed limits (only works if you're a law abiding citizen, of course
).