Who fancies a bash in the Ring

(that sounds rather disturbing, let me put it another way)

Who fancies a trip to NURBURGRING


August 2010 date to be announced .


Current list of guys going from SES (South East Scoobies)

1: BIG "E" :nod:
2: NIGE (Evo VIII MR or Scoob)
3: SilverSlider (New Name )
4: Steve_PPP
5: Iain (need to get better brakes first though before going on ring but def going )
6: Crowman- with new K sports, shocks, springs, power fc, new engine, chasis, in the last week. :doubleup:
7: Hongkongphooey (gives me an idea of when to upgrade the brakes!)
8. Luckyscoob
9: Skullfudge
10:trails
11:
12:


Oh yes...

 

1: BIG "E" :nod:
2: NIGE (Evo VIII MR or Scoob)
3: SilverSlider (New Name )
4: Steve_PPP
5: Iain (need to get better brakes first though before going on ring but def going )
6: Crowman- with new K sports, shocks, springs, power fc, new engine, chasis, in the last week. :doubleup:
7: Hongkongphooey (gives me an idea of when to upgrade the brakes!)
8. Luckyscoob
9: Skullfudge
10:trails
11:Anger
12:

Said i was up for this on SES but didnt add to list

 

1: BIG "E" :nod:
2: NIGE (Evo VIII MR or Scoob)
3: SilverSlider (New Name )
4: Steve_PPP
5: Iain (need to get better brakes first though before going on ring but def going )
6: Crowman- with new K sports, shocks, springs, power fc, new engine, chasis, in the last week. :doubleup:
7: Hongkongphooey (gives me an idea of when to upgrade the brakes!)
8. Luckyscoob
9: Skullfudge
10:trails
11:Anger
12:Scooby Hoo? Could be up for this as long as you take OAP's (sub 10)

 

Yep, i will do try my best to do it. 5 years by then since i first went to the ring. Managed 10.04 in my MG ZR DIESEL

Will either be in the scoob (trailered there) or the M3, if i still have it by then!

 

PS20 What would a respectable time be for one lap in a street car ? Say the average Scoob?

 

Clive (Mr competitive ) best thing i can say is don't worry about times, treat it as a fine b road, it will take you many laps to even remember some of the corners and with virtually no run off area and the prospect of a big bill if you do go off (car, barriers, track closed etc) i really don't think it worth worrying about the time

 

Wise words, and the reason that I'm cautious about doing a few laps myself. As a friend of mine can confirm, you can have quite a large bill if you go off!

I'm down there in September, but am still unsure whether or not I'll take the Scoob. Maybe I'll tag along with you lot next year and bring the car then, though I'll have to complete the few upgrades that I've planned so that I can keep up with you

 

You know me too well Gramps .

I have noted the advise given, I also have a long time to learn The Ring on a simulator that we have, and to be fair today's simulators are extremely accurate on the correct software.

I was just curious of the average times, that's all.

 

Definitely take the Scoob, i did my first lap of the ring in half wet half dry conditions, just take it at your own pace and you will be fine

 

What kind of simulator Clive, if it's a games console then everyone that has been to the ring has said it's nothing like it once it's your own car

 

I fully understand what you are saying. "Simbin" use GPS and CAD print data that is so accurate.
I have driven around Brands many times and been on the Simbin simulation of Brands and the realism is incredible. Gradients, cambers, bumps and surface data is virtually 100% accurate.
Race teams use them on a regular basis for new circuits / or driver's new to international circuits.
Grip levels will need to be learned but the basic circuit and surface info is shockingly realistic.!

Think back to the nineties when Jack Villeneuve was in his first F1 season. I cant remember what circuit it was but he had never driven this particular circuit. Williams put him on a sim before he went and he qualified in pole.
Mclaren admitted that Hamilton had spent over 20,000 hours in sims prior to his F1 introduction.

 

I thought those Honda CBR 900's were meant to be quick?

 

Good day at Brands today (Time Attack).
Left car up on the South East Scooby stand all day and down to the pits.

Felt for Paul of Zen's who went out early with an oil pressure prob. Not sure who won as I needed to leave before the end. Anyone know ?????

A car was put up against a race race bike (not sure of model), to compare laps, & Olly was nominated. On the edge driving resulted entering a deep gravel trap sideways at 107mph!. Olly & car ok.

Good hooking up with you again Daz Davis

Hope you enjoyed the day Hugh



The P1 will be back up RCM within a few months.

Had a good chat with Matt & Mark (Mech), and the car's next tweaks are as follows:-

Activation of Launch Control
Carbon Prop
Map for NF fuel
Air Conditioning being removed (Never used it in 4 yrs)

 

Your going for the carbon prop Did olly give any reasons as to why it was better apart from the obvious weight !!

 

I did not speak with Olly today about that Steve. I was chatting with Matt.

It was my choice. I have been thinking about it and just want to do it. It must ease power delivery turning less weight. The only down side may be less traction?
One way to find out mate

My grip level at mo is really good. It may prove the wrong move?

 

I have always wanted one and soooo many people have put me off. Even chatting with paul he said I don't really need one but if it was on his car he would. I think even if I added one I doubt I would see any difference I would just hope it was making a difference ???

 

Same here Steve....always wondered if they'll make any difference at all.

 

Steve Guglielmi won.
Your car looked very clean Skull when I saw it on the scooby stand. The twisted turbo kit looks awesome.

Echo about Zen, felt really sorry for them.

 

You would see a bigger difference from fitting adjustable cam pulleys to get the timing to its optimum point Steve, especially with uprated cams.

Banny

 

MartP1 has an engine very similar to mine other than his crank and his is a 2.2 and lighter than mine due to a slight strip out, yet Marti suffers from bad traction lose. I am sure Marti is running a carbon prop.

He is developing around 40 - 50 Bhp more than I currently am yet I suffer very little traction lose if the surface is flat & smooth?

I will shortly be trying some launches using my Anti Lag to see what difference that makes. I have not tried this yet.

 

Thanks Dave

 

Had a great day thanks Clive.
Nice to meet up with Daz.
Enjoyed the passenger lap in the Bugatti.
The C/Prop is a bit like a "clean car" which always seems to go faster.
Go sequential .05 of a second gear change at full throttle.

 

Are you sure Banny?....if it is then i'll be looking into them when my car goes down to Chy.

 

I am positive, I would not spend money on stuff I did not need (being a tight Yorkshireman an all ) If people are advocating that you will see optimum power without using adjustable pulleys to setup timing on aftermarket cams, then you're talking to the wrong people.

I will be running adjustable pulleys on the 2.5 with nos and on the 2.3 when it is built.

Banny

 

Any news on your car mate ? Are you coming down this weekend to collect ?

Clive

Only just seen on here about TA, bloody shame for Paul, Liz and the crew

 

Madhammer, I'm either coming down late friday afternoon or saturday morning for the car! So I may pop into santa pod if I have time Pauls sorting it this week so hopefully your BHP record for pauls will no longer be the highest


Banny, I was going to put RCM cam pillies in mine but after speaking to paul he said that I would buy them and find out the timing was ok! So I just saved the £600 If I want them in now its an engine out job again

 

I will be at Zen early Saturday mate as I am dropping my other engine off to have the heads strapped on for my project car. Then off to the Pod.

Your 'possible' record may be shortlived as I am ordering my new ECU this week

 

Nice one! I assume the new ecu means launch control ??

 

It does indeed, not that I need it now Got my 60's down to low 1.6's and a best of 1.59 last time out.

May come with a few other add ons too

 

Something is telling me that Madhammer will see his first 10 second run

Olly bought the goods down with him Sunday Clive (Brands TA).
My car was on show up the top, so Eureka (Steve) took the HEAVY box home in his boot as he was parked in the pits.

Steve is coming over this week and you will receive it as soon as mate.