thanks Clive...my main fear is miss-selecting a lower gear at the wrong time, I've been driving a TDCI focus with a 6speed for a while and have already tried to destroy that by selecting third instead of fifth

Ian

 

Main gearchange that causes issue, is going from 2nd to 3rd as the gate pattern is much narrower than the five speed and is so easy to miss the gear.

Banny

 

Did not focus on reaction yesterday, I let the other person go I just wanted to try and practice getting the launch right, still some way to go though. Still not sure what revs work best on mine, somewhere around blipping 5k was best though

 

thanks Banny.

 

lol as when you drove mine clive i found the change down 6 to 5 the only un natural change i havnt managed to miss a gear yet
but still only covered 750 miles since the map and running in

 

On three occasions I have gone from 4th to 5th, but gone from 4th to 3rd by mistake while giving it some !!. Luckily I had realised what I had done on all three and floored the clutch just in time.

So far I have only used the P1 in competition once at North Weald (track Masters) and it never happened.
I think it's down to concentration levels. The 3 times I have done it were times where I was not fully concentrating on the issue.

 

[QUOTE=Mad Hammer;8529423]Did not focus on reaction yesterday, I let the other person go I just wanted to try and practice getting the launch right, still some way to go though. Still not sure what revs work best on mine, somewhere around blipping 5k was best though[/QUOTE

Can see where your coming from Hammer. Good idea actually, your never pull a cherry

I have been up the Pod over 80 times Hammer (never in competition) but I have always found Top Fuel mind blowing.
When ever you study the Pro's launching (not just in TF) but all brackets, they always seem to dump the clutch on the 3rd yellow without pulling a red?
Watching this on video can prove deceptive due to the distance of the camera etc, but when you are there near the start line watching.
Your ears also tell you the same.
I reckon the top drivers in drag racing have got that down to a fine art.
To achieve the 0.4 reaction they seem to know how many parts of a second the transmission takes to engage.
I have watched 1000's of launches from only 10 Mts away and many times I was convinced they would have pulled a red, but they don't.

Here is an example. Hit the full screen option and watch it VERY closely. You will need to watch it several times, and listen!.

(after you have hit the link look to the left and hit "Team Bart")

Team Bart - Google Video

 

Have spoken to a couple of tuning firms on this as I'm thinking of taking mine to the next level, and I understand that these are being tested out and hopefully we may seem them available come year end. I can only assume there will be a premium on these not to mention they have not been tried and tested on the tracks/drag strips/roads.

Given the 2.2 closed decks brand new are around the £3k mark, I can only imagine the 2.5 to go at min £7k (if not more!) given it's Cosworth!

 

How far do you intend going JP?

The Cosworth department would have tested a new block to destruction before releasing it to the public!

 

i'll just have to be extra careful to begin with i guess

 

The only issues i have is going from 4th to 5th....it tends to crunch alot when you a quick on the up shift.
Plus i might have selected 3rd a couple of times by mistake on full tilt!!

I'm getting my engine in 2 weeks

 

Good times MD....you've smashed your PB

Now trying to get a 10s is a totally different kettle of fish but i'll give it a good go this year

 

Clive

I'd lay money on Matt and Ollie having sorted you a Forester box.

I missed a few changes on my 6 speed - mainly 2nd to 5th which isn't so bad obviously, but also 6th to 3rd when "making progress" but like yourself just caught it in time -just after getting it but it's becoming more natural now. Apparently the bushes can get sloppy if it's an older box and then the narrow gate can be tricky but I'm sure an RCM box will be fine.

I've found that it's best to let the box find it's way i.e. when going up from 2nd to 3rd push it out of second and let it spring itself into the central plane Before then pushing forward rather than positivley trying to select 3rd by guiding it all the way with my hand as that's when I seem to misslot. Similarly coming down - 6th to 5th is fine as that straight up the box, but with a sideways to the right pressure to avoid falling into the 3rd slot; 5th to 4th is reverse of 2nd to 3rd - pull back out of 5th, almost let go so it finds the neutral in the 3rd/4th plane and then pull back into 4th.

Worth changing slowly until you get the knack given that your engine (and to a far lesser extent my one too) are reassuringly expensive...

Also meant to say that Cosworth are rumoured as above, but allegedely haven't even begun designing/casting yet (according to Ian Litchfield) so are some way away given that they will want to test etc

 

I blew a £12k forged engine to bits when I first got my six speed I changed up from 4th to 5th and got third by mistake. Goodbye pistons, block, heads and turbo!!!

This was the result so be very very careful as six speeds get very very vague sometimes

 

Daz

A quick bit of wet and dry and as good as new...

- a salutary reminder, especially with a £20k+ forged engine originally in my case and Clive's £34k (iirc?) work of art - I might just print that out and stick it on my steering wheel to remind me to be careful...

 

Watch the box!!!

 

Or buy a Left Hand Drive - your w#nking arm is much stonger and has a lot more finnesse

 

LMAO

 

Thanks John, your comments have been noted.

It may sound a bit of a minor issue but I remember watching Marti's video of when he had the same mods as I have, and I could not believe how fast he was getting through the box.

 

That's why I'm certain you'll have a forester box as it's the only one long enough - that's probably what Sy has too ( isn't it Sy?).

I have the JDM Sti/ Spec c 6 speed and I pretty much don't have time to get my hands back on the wheel between changes until 4th and above... even with my power.

 

Thats what mines is like in a 03 sti

 

Will a Forester 6 speed get you over the line on the 1/4 in 4th ?

 

Yes, it will. Assuming your rev limit allows.

 

On a totally different note, the right hand side of my face has been totally numb for 2 weeks now, and been feeling rather weird. So i guessed it be best to have it checked out. Food Poisoning...fish by all accounts.

 

no thats part payment to rcm

 

Now that would be nice then, I will stick with mine though especially given how rare they are

 

LOL........ The myth of RCM being expensive is often misunderstood.

I have mentioned before (somewhere, cant remember if it was this thread), that when you weigh things up they are not expensive at all. Their hourly rate is £ 75:00 cheaper than Audi !!!. and I know this due to my wife owning one.

It's the quality of their parts that make up a huge % of the bills, which suggests that the high standard of workmanship and knowledge prove very reasonable.

Several reading this thread would have used RCM and I am sure they will agree.

 

was tongue in cheek skull didnt want to give a serious reply incase it was one of your jokes

 

na

 

Totally agree, they are THE best in the scooby tuning business,bar none!!!