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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 08:10 PM
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i was only saying that the other day
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 08:22 PM
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i was only saying that the other day
I understand the mechanics Steve it's the electronics that looses me
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 09:15 PM
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Clive

Pavlo is Paul - the boss of Zen Performance and the man who (very promptly) fitted my exe tc suspension, 6 speed box and new brakes a couple of weeks ago.

He's also the man who has recently fettled a certain 1.5GL that was in at the same time as my car and so is pretty well placed to know who's at 600 already...

He speaks the truth about the Navara but he also has a certain dark green wide arch impreza that you'd have seen in Time Attack last year...

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cheers for the Fatboy (mate)

Hi Paul how you doing mate . Heard lots about you from many guys
(all good), and yes, I have been beside your car several times in the pits at TA, very impressive.

Fudge <--- gonna quickly go and check my thread
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Pavlo
I think Sy's claims about the Turbonator are somwhat overstated. It looks like we might have to have a rethink about all this stuff. Despite the "too good to be true" aspect of it, I was sold at first their claims really stand up to the test. But the developmental unit we have here show promise, perhaps you'd just be better off going from a 1.X engine (Sy's 1.5 isn't exactly standard ) to maybe a high compression, big bore 2.7 NA engine with twin Turbonators, some trick heads and cams with phase ported tripode profile inlets are on the cards with a view to revving to as much as 8300rpm. Sy has even mentioned a flux something-or-other but 600hp seems such a long way away.

Back to the drawing board I suppose, perhaps a little nitrous will lift the results a little
All of the above is pretty much in the public domain now - but what ever you do never blip the gas when chaging down with a turbonator fitted - learn by my expensive mistakes.

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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by WRX_Rich
it been at the garage since June but been on the ramps for a few weeks

Im getting a built 2.5 with RCM heads and a rcm 500 turbo
nothing like yours but should be a nice grunty road car when its finished

god only know how much you have spent!!!!
Your car has bee there since June !, what year ?

Will be worth the wait though Rich.

My car was up there for so long, there was actually a period that I forgot I had it !
Bless 'em
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Pavlo
I think Sy's claims about the Turbonator are somwhat overstated. It looks like we might have to have a rethink about all this stuff. Despite the "too good to be true" aspect of it, I was sold at first their claims really stand up to the test. But the developmental unit we have here show promise, perhaps you'd just be better off going from a 1.X engine (Sy's 1.5 isn't exactly standard ) to maybe a high compression, big bore 2.7 NA engine with twin Turbonators, some trick heads and cams with phase ported tripode profile inlets are on the cards with a view to revving to as much as 8300rpm. Sy has even mentioned a flux something-or-other but 600hp seems such a long way away.

Back to the drawing board I suppose, perhaps a little nitrous will lift the results a little

600bhp involves more work than I realised Paul. It's quite a high figure to achieve. I guess fuel or No2 are the ideal systems?.
My car will be going on a dyno when the new turbo kit goes on and 580 - 590 has been mentioned.
The NO2 kit that's going on is RCM's Gas O Ring set up. That gives the Gobstopper a further 125bhp. Will that be the same on mine? or will it be set up different?
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 10:23 AM
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I wont be able to make the meet this Sunday fella's.

RCM are ready to put in the 6 speed and fitting of twisted turbo.
Car going up tomorrow (Saturday) and will be ready for the 30 - 130 event.

Hopefully it could be done for Brands on 27th Feb too.

YESSSSSSSSSS
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SkullFudge
Your car has bee there since June !, what year ?

Will be worth the wait though Rich.

My car was up there for so long, there was actually a period that I forgot I had it !
Bless 'em
I sure hope so, I have used RCM for some time and have never been dissapointed


is there a technical reason for building the engine with out the o rings in stage 1 ?

just seems a bit strange to build an engine then take it out again 6 months later


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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 10:54 AM
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"Phase ported tripode profile inlets"

Of course. I could kick myself - it's so obvious once you think about it
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Originally Posted by SkullFudge
I wont be able to make the meet this Sunday fella's.

RCM are ready to put in the 6 speed and fitting of twisted turbo.
Car going up tomorrow (Saturday) and will be ready for the 30 - 130 event.

Hopefully it could be done for Brands on 27th Feb too.

YESSSSSSSSSS
Skullfudge you should have bought that 22B to come in.
Can't you drive your wifes car, it's not all about the car Clive I happen to think that your an alright guy. (mines a Southern Comfort no ice)
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooby Hoo?
Skullfudge you should have bought that 22B to come in.
Can't you drive your wifes car, it's not all about the car Clive I happen to think that your an alright guy. (mines a Southern Comfort no ice)

Sure Hugh, I could come in Hev's car.

mmmm that 22B sure was a nice looking car

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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 12:14 PM
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Hi clive ,
If you are having the o'rings fitted in your block instead of the normal head gasket ,i dont think you will see your car for a while .
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by WRX_Rich
I sure hope so, I have used RCM for some time and have never been dissapointed


is there a technical reason for building the engine with out the o rings in stage 1 ?

just seems a bit strange to build an engine then take it out again 6 months later


Rich
At the time of building the engine Rich they knew I wanted 600 ish but without the NO2 or race fuel it will prove difficult. It will be close but not close enough.
It was then suggested that race fuel or RCM's NO2 system would achieve it, and more.

I know what you mean though. Would have been good to have had it done on the initial build. My fault, not RCM's.
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by P1Marty
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If you are having the o'rings fitted in your block instead of the normal head gasket ,i dont think you will see your car for a while .
O rings are being done another time, (when the NO2 is fitted), not on this visit. Transmission and twisted this time mate.

This is the bit I have been looking forward to, and going by some of your previous remarks Marti it should prove to be a big difference?
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SkullFudge
O rings are being done another time, (when the NO2 is fitted), not on this visit. Transmission and twisted this time mate.

This is the bit I have been looking forward to, and going by some of your previous remarks Marti it should prove to be a big difference?
I went from circa 450 to 580 and difference is poles apart mate. Far bigger than say the jump from mid 300's to mid 400's
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by SkullFudge
O rings are being done another time, (when the NO2 is fitted), not on this visit. Transmission and twisted this time mate.

This is the bit I have been looking forward to, and going by some of your previous remarks Marti it should prove to be a big difference?

I still have not got used to the way she pulls in 4th and 5th gear .Only problem is it eats spark plugs ,they only last 1500 miles and it gets a really bad misfire.
Be careful on what turbo you have fitted ,my engine is 2,1cc so has a bit more torque ,the turbo i have on is the GT30r (3037) with .82 housing .
It starts pulling hard between 4000rpm -4500rpm.
If you go for the gt3542 it will be very laggy ,Matt said to me that mines got around 540 bhp ,with a gt3542 your only looking at around 580bhp on v power but it will not kick until over 5000rpm.
To be onest you will find mine with the gt30r scary.
Its up to you the end of the day ,but go with what Matt thinks
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Mad Hammer
I went from circa 450 to 580 and difference is poles apart mate. Far bigger than say the jump from mid 300's to mid 400's
I am expecting a big difference Hammer.
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Have you thought of going for carbon wheels on track days Skullfudge
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by SkullFudge
I wont be able to make the meet this Sunday fella's.

RCM are ready to put in the 6 speed and fitting of twisted turbo.
Car going up tomorrow (Saturday) and will be ready for the 30 - 130 event.

Hopefully it could be done for Brands on 27th Feb too.

YESSSSSSSSSS

I cant make this sun too - soz guys.

see you at the next one.


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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooby Hoo?
Skullfudge you should have bought that 22B to come in.
it's not all about the car Clive I happen to think that your an alright guy. (mines a Southern Comfort no ice)
Think you will look right at home in the TT
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooby Hoo?
Have you thought of going for carbon wheels on track days Skullfudge
Carbon Wheels !!! are you joking Hugh, they are expensive, and Olly cracked one of his on a kerb!.
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Originally Posted by P1Marty
I still have not got used to the way she pulls in 4th and 5th gear .Only problem is it eats spark plugs ,they only last 1500 miles and it gets a really bad misfire.
Be careful on what turbo you have fitted ,my engine is 2,1cc so has a bit more torque ,the turbo i have on is the GT30r (3037) with .82 housing .
It starts pulling hard between 4000rpm -4500rpm.
If you go for the gt3542 it will be very laggy ,Matt said to me that mines got around 540 bhp ,with a gt3542 your only looking at around 580bhp on v power but it will not kick until over 5000rpm.
To be onest you will find mine with the gt30r scary.
Its up to you the end of the day ,but go with what Matt thinks
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I will do that Marti, (leave it to Matt). 5000rpm that is laggy huh.
What's with the spark plug prob. I thought you had some super dooper ones mate?
Thanks for the info.
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Originally Posted by Mad Hammer
I went from circa 450 to 580 and difference is poles apart mate. Far bigger than say the jump from mid 300's to mid 400's
Hi Hammer.

What rpm does your GT35R kick in at Hammer??
I can see where Marti is coming from, just wondered how yours was?
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Originally Posted by SkullFudge
Hi Hammer.

What rpm does your GT35R kick in at Hammer??
I can see where Marti is coming from, just wondered how yours was?
Remember I have a 2.35, however I get 1 bar by 3600 and 2 bar by 4200rpm in 5th and 6th.

On a 2.0 I think Marty is right a 30R may be better for you a 35R or 35/42 is going to be very, very laggy ! Speak to RCM mate or ask Paul on this thread (they are the experts) but unless your going to only use the car for track and drag then I would go for the smaller turbo.
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Originally Posted by SkullFudge
I will do that Marti, (leave it to Matt). 5000rpm that is laggy huh.
What's with the spark plug prob. I thought you had some super dooper ones mate?
Thanks for the info.
I have got some super dooper ones in but for some reason they last around 1500 miles and starts to misfire in 4th and 5th gear.I only use the car really for drag racing so maybe its that ,another thing is i start the engine and warm it up every 3 weeks through the winter as the car does not come out Between november and end march.
Have a word with Olly tomorrow and ask him what my car feels like ,i had it re-mapped last year to get a bit more power out of it
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The NGK racing 8 plugs should last much better, but you need to ensure the engine doesn't run rich on cruise and idle as the plugs will get clogged up pretty quick. A case of "treat em mean, keep em keen!".
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Originally Posted by P1Marty
I have got some super dooper ones in but for some reason they last around 1500 miles and starts to misfire in 4th and 5th gear.I only use the car really for drag racing so maybe its that ,another thing is i start the engine and warm it up every 3 weeks through the winter as the car does not come out Between november and end march.
Have a word with Olly tomorrow and ask him what my car feels like ,i had it re-mapped last year to get a bit more power out of it
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What's plugs you using Marti ?
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Originally Posted by Pavlo
The NGK racing 8 plugs should last much better, but you need to ensure the engine doesn't run rich on cruise and idle as the plugs will get clogged up pretty quick. A case of "treat em mean, keep em keen!".
Posted at same time as Paul, I use Racing 8's. Over 2k since Paul built it and no probs at all.

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What's plugs you using Marti ?
Not sure of the number ,all i know is they are £30 each
£120 a set.Have to ask Olly next time i go down

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They will be NGK R7435-8 or R-7119-8 at a guess, the later being a platinum version which has been replaced by the former, which is Iridium.

What fuel are you running on?

What ignition system?

RCM will have some options for upgrading the ignition which might help, and there are things that can be done with the MoTeC install (might already be in place) that will help keep theplugs clean.

Matt & Ollie are your first port of call.
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