vanishing point - good in theory, difficult in practice
#31
Originally Posted by [MikeyB]
I use it every time I'm in my car apart from the trip to work as thats boring, and a book I used to back up the theorys behind it was this: Amazon.co.uk: Roadcraft: The Police Driver's Handbook: Books: Home Office
Def worth a read!
If you have read and understood this book then you should not be on the far limit of a left hand bend i.e far right side of your lane with oncoming traffic. this is classed as a hazard and safety comes before speed, i teach roadcraft for the IAM and have done for a few years now, i also am an ex Close protection driver and ex military so have an impressive driving cv...racing driving is for the track but that does not mean you can not make good progress when it is safe to do so.
Im an ex scooby driver but got into bikes, and your right on a bike the limit of visibility can be used to even greater advantage when positioning for a bend.
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I use it every time I'm in my car apart from the trip to work as thats boring, and a book I used to back up the theorys behind it was this: Amazon.co.uk: Roadcraft: The Police Driver's Handbook: Books: Home Office
Def worth a read!
If you have read and understood this book then you should not be on the far limit of a left hand bend i.e far right side of your lane with oncoming traffic. this is classed as a hazard and safety comes before speed, i teach roadcraft for the IAM and have done for a few years now, i also am an ex Close protection driver and ex military so have an impressive driving cv...racing driving is for the track but that does not mean you can not make good progress when it is safe to do so.
Im an ex scooby driver but got into bikes, and your right on a bike the limit of visibility can be used to even greater advantage when positioning for a bend.
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One of the great things I discover when I first started using SatNav on my Ipaq about 5 yrs ago was it shows you the road ahead - it's very useful on B-Roads at night - and I don't mean for driving super fast - just knowing what is coming next! Obviously it does not account for peaks and troughs in the road or camber etc but it's an indication.
Also handy for seeing where straights are coming up ahead so you can change down and be ready to overtake (bear in mind I had an FTO before so the power band was slightly different than it is in my WRX I don't need as much of a gap now!)
Also handy for seeing where straights are coming up ahead so you can change down and be ready to overtake (bear in mind I had an FTO before so the power band was slightly different than it is in my WRX I don't need as much of a gap now!)
#33
Only thing i would add is information overlays everything else ie road signs, marking, tree lines etc etc all that you can see at the time then position, speed, gear, followed by acceleration (not accelerating).
But the limit point is the only thing you can drive safely to ( and by safely that doesnt mean miss daisy speed) as by definition it is the furthest point of clear uninterrupted road surface you can see at that point.
Ive been driving 22 years in various cars 2wd front , rear and 4wd but can honestly say given the right tution i have learnt shed loads in the last 2 weeks. The limit point is the way forward coupled with the other criteria.
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Its ashame there arnt a fewmore driving threads on here.
Seeing a scoobs are such a great drivers car and the major factor in taking a car quickly and safely down a road is the human part of equasion not what headers you have.
Even if you have an advanced driving background like me or GSXR rider.
I find a commentary drive is a good thing to do outloud every now and then .Just once every few months. Kind of helps focus the mind and helps you pick up on those little things that you dont do quite right.
I suppose the thing about driving is that you can never be good enough at it and there is always room to look at yourself and try and improve yourself.
Steve
Seeing a scoobs are such a great drivers car and the major factor in taking a car quickly and safely down a road is the human part of equasion not what headers you have.
Even if you have an advanced driving background like me or GSXR rider.
I find a commentary drive is a good thing to do outloud every now and then .Just once every few months. Kind of helps focus the mind and helps you pick up on those little things that you dont do quite right.
I suppose the thing about driving is that you can never be good enough at it and there is always room to look at yourself and try and improve yourself.
Steve
#35
i race motorcycles on track, ride motorcycles on the road, vanishing point works but if you dont know what is out of site then best to stay under 100% of you and your cars limits, sometimes when your 'reading' the vanishing point that starts to open up (decreasing radius bend) it can now and again suddenlly tighten again far beyond all expectations (not the time you want to be flooring it thinking the bend is opening up)..... save some in reserve and you will be fine. however this is the 1st time ive ever heard the words 'vanishing point' mentioned by car drivers.
no substitute to knowing the road/track proper, its just a way of helping you read unknown roads better
no substitute to knowing the road/track proper, its just a way of helping you read unknown roads better
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