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26 September 2003, 08:22 AM
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Hope you do Rannoch, as the car died last night.
Rob, approx £2000
T-uk, yes it was that cylinder.
Driving home gently last night and just as i got to my village and lifted off to slow down from 70 to 40, there was a big loss of power and a rough feel to the car, black smoke coming out the back, and the nock count on the link counted 6
As i pulled into the drive, it stalled. Fired it back up and rested it at the bottom of the garden.
Had tea and did the checks again, all plugs were fine, compression results were:-
25/9/03 then (24/9/03)
1 100~110psi (120~130psi)
2 120~130psi (120~130psi)
3 100~110psi (120~130psi)
4 100psi (110~120psi)
Oil level on the 24/9/03 was between the 2 marks, so fine. Oil yesterday 25/9/03 was bewlow the lower line
Have not got a bloody clue as to what it is now
The smoke coming out the back is horrible, even on rough idle.
Needless to say, i have gone from happy to sad in less than a day.
No scoobyshootout for me
Steven
edited to number cylinders correctly
[Edited by P20SPD - 9/26/2003 8:49:12 AM]
Rob, approx £2000
T-uk, yes it was that cylinder.
Driving home gently last night and just as i got to my village and lifted off to slow down from 70 to 40, there was a big loss of power and a rough feel to the car, black smoke coming out the back, and the nock count on the link counted 6
As i pulled into the drive, it stalled. Fired it back up and rested it at the bottom of the garden.
Had tea and did the checks again, all plugs were fine, compression results were:-
25/9/03 then (24/9/03)
1 100~110psi (120~130psi)
2 120~130psi (120~130psi)
3 100~110psi (120~130psi)
4 100psi (110~120psi)
Oil level on the 24/9/03 was between the 2 marks, so fine. Oil yesterday 25/9/03 was bewlow the lower line
Have not got a bloody clue as to what it is now
The smoke coming out the back is horrible, even on rough idle.
Needless to say, i have gone from happy to sad in less than a day.
No scoobyshootout for me
Steven
edited to number cylinders correctly
[Edited by P20SPD - 9/26/2003 8:49:12 AM]
26 September 2003, 08:37 AM
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Hmmm..maybe not so serious Stephen.
Have a check of any pipework in the area of the boost solenoid and emissions area. Specifically the MAP sensor (the 4mm type rubber hoses)
Sounds like one of them has come off and is causing the car to go very rich and run rough at idle especially with the compressions being not bad.
You have heavy *black* smoke out the back?
Alan
Have a check of any pipework in the area of the boost solenoid and emissions area. Specifically the MAP sensor (the 4mm type rubber hoses)
Sounds like one of them has come off and is causing the car to go very rich and run rough at idle especially with the compressions being not bad.
You have heavy *black* smoke out the back?
Alan
26 September 2003, 08:48 AM
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Cheers MadGrip
Alan, are you sure it could be that simple?
It is definately BLACK smoke, i held a kitchen towel over the exhaust for approx 2 seconds, and it was solid black
Hopefully David will come over tomorrow and we can have a look at it, i will try those things tonight, ran out of time and light last night.
Why would it stall though, and why no oil?
Steven
Alan, are you sure it could be that simple?
It is definately BLACK smoke, i held a kitchen towel over the exhaust for approx 2 seconds, and it was solid black
Hopefully David will come over tomorrow and we can have a look at it, i will try those things tonight, ran out of time and light last night.
Why would it stall though, and why no oil?
Steven
26 September 2003, 08:54 AM
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i held a kitchen towel over the exhaust for approx 2 seconds, and it was solid black
Hope it is something simple, but ultimately you've got a new engine. It's wierd that compression is still so good though?
I'd offer to help, but I think I have my family back home today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
etc.
26 September 2003, 09:52 AM
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Steven, I blew the blow off valve off the pipework on mine & the reaction I got was I thought I had blown the engine
basically the car wouldnt run, accelerate the black smoke it made scared the **** outta me etc.....
I think it could be a hose so its loosing all air into the engine & thus running horrendously rich as others have said...
Me looking at the bad side of everything as well, i'm sure this is what started my engine on its slow & painfull route to death, as since that day its got progressivly worse & worse
Hope you manage to sort it
basically the car wouldnt run, accelerate the black smoke it made scared the **** outta me etc.....
I think it could be a hose so its loosing all air into the engine & thus running horrendously rich as others have said...
Me looking at the bad side of everything as well, i'm sure this is what started my engine on its slow & painfull route to death, as since that day its got progressivly worse & worse
Hope you manage to sort it
26 September 2003, 10:50 AM
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**** this.. Ill get to yours tomorrow morning.. even if I have to get on a train 
We WILL FIX it.
We WILL FIX it.
26 September 2003, 10:59 AM
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Rob,
you want a Group Buy - what would you be prepared to pay - being realistic about duty, VAT and shipping?
These short engines look cheap in NA, but once they are brought over they are a little more expensive than they look!!
Stevie (star of TOTB II on Sky) is right - it would be great if these things could be avoided - but on a bulk purchase it would be much more difficult...
...so hands up who wants one
Steven,
will see you later on.
Rannoch
you want a Group Buy - what would you be prepared to pay - being realistic about duty, VAT and shipping?
These short engines look cheap in NA, but once they are brought over they are a little more expensive than they look!!
Stevie (star of TOTB II on Sky) is right - it would be great if these things could be avoided - but on a bulk purchase it would be much more difficult...
...so hands up who wants one
Steven,
will see you later on.
Rannoch
26 September 2003, 11:11 AM
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Stephen
I think it is that simple. What you've said on this thread about the problem reminds me of a similar situation i had a long time ago. Same symptoms
{get out clause}
Though obviously i haven't seen the car to be sure...
{get out clause}
Let us know what you find.
Alan
Alan, are you sure it could be that simple?
{get out clause}
Though obviously i haven't seen the car to be sure...
{get out clause}
Let us know what you find.
Alan
26 September 2003, 12:23 PM
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Hi Steven,
Sorry to hear of your ongoing saga. I hope you get it sorted for Sunday as it won't be the same without your wagon running
Can't offer any technical advice as I'm an engine-numpty but if there's anything else I can do (even if it's just picking you up and driving you to Elvington on Sunday) just let me know
Steve
Sorry to hear of your ongoing saga
. I hope you get it sorted for Sunday as it won't be the same without your wagon running Can't offer any technical advice as I'm an engine-numpty but if there's anything else I can do (even if it's just picking you up and driving you to Elvington on Sunday) just let me know
Steve
26 September 2003, 11:12 PM
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Like I said on the email Steven, I am really sorry it is being a b1tch..
After seeing it on TOTB2 last night I was looking forward to seeing you run.
Really hoping it is something simple.
Simon
After seeing it on TOTB2 last night I was looking forward to seeing you run.
Really hoping it is something simple.
Simon
27 September 2003, 09:10 AM
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You will see it run
After getting up early, ready for an all dayer, i did as Alan suggested, and replaced all the hoses to the MAP sensor and boost solenoid, one by one.
The last one was the bottom of the map sensor, and **** me it works fine. Pressure tested the hose with the compressor and it has a fine split in it, which under pressure just opened up.
Thanks for all your help guys, really feel stupid, but glad its something simple, cheers for the suggestion Alan.
Scooby Shoot Out here i come
Steven
After getting up early, ready for an all dayer, i did as Alan suggested, and replaced all the hoses to the MAP sensor and boost solenoid, one by one.
The last one was the bottom of the map sensor, and **** me it works fine
. Pressure tested the hose with the compressor and it has a fine split in it, which under pressure just opened up.Thanks for all your help guys, really feel stupid, but glad its something simple, cheers for the suggestion Alan.
Scooby Shoot Out here i come
Steven
27 September 2003, 09:18 AM
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Excellent, like I said on scoobyshoot out thread, don't move the car now..
I was thinking about the compression reading being lower slightkly the second time and it must be due to warm and cold engine etc??
See you tomorrow..
Simon
I was thinking about the compression reading being lower slightkly the second time and it must be due to warm and cold engine etc??
See you tomorrow..
Simon
27 September 2003, 09:42 AM
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how many more lives can this engine have , with luck like yours I hope you do the lottery tonight.
so what boost will you be going to at the shootout?, interested to see how the times compare to totb.
, with luck like yours I hope you do the lottery tonight.so what boost will you be going to at the shootout?, interested to see how the times compare to totb.
27 September 2003, 11:18 AM
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Just done about 60 miles in it, and its knocking a bit, but then i dont have the WI switched on.
T-uk, good point about the lottery
Boost wise, i will see tomorrow, thinking of whacking the dawes on it, and just keep turning it. 1.4Bar? 1.5bar? Who knows
David, sorry
Steven
T-uk, good point about the lottery
Boost wise, i will see tomorrow, thinking of whacking the dawes on it, and just keep turning it. 1.4Bar? 1.5bar? Who knows
David, sorry
Steven
27 September 2003, 12:10 PM
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Steven,
NO COMMENT Nearly fell off my chair............
Mark.
It was a paper towel, even i am not that suicidle
Nearly fell off my chair............Mark.
27 September 2003, 05:59 PM
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the best md304 set-up I have drove was at 1.5bar in the mid and 1.25ish at the very top. ask it to do more than 1.3 at the top and you swear it's faster until you ap22/road dyno it.
let us know how you get on.
let us know how you get on.
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