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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 08:05 PM
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Andy mailed you last night, not had anything back yet

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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 08:15 PM
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Too slow man.

Mailed you about half an hour ago


Things left to do.....

Fix the blowing exhaust (centre to downpipe join)
Make / Buy an Inlet pipe.
Buy and fit injectors
Visit Mr Rawle.
Have some FUN.


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Oh and have it rolling roaded on the 11th October
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 08:19 PM
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lol that car is too clean!
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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 08:33 PM
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got a reputation to uphold.


Oi ! who shouted TART at the back... I'll see you later.

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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 10:32 PM
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fookin 'ell that's clean

do you actually drive the car? sorry should have said, have you ever driven the car before stripping it to bits to fit all your diy mods?

You're not a real tart until you get those wedges and indicators sorted

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Old Sep 16, 2003 | 11:09 PM
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didn't look that clean at 4pm this afternoon. take a look back....

Nice to have it shining again though.

<fanfare>
Still, all will be grubby again in a day or two As I have FINALLY sorted some 740's
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not so sure I'll ahve enough doe left for the insurance though

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Old Sep 17, 2003 | 12:16 PM
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Do you fancy cleaning my engine bay?
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Old Sep 17, 2003 | 12:37 PM
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Thats the first time I have seen the collectors at the top and bottom like they should be. All the aftermarket ones seem to have them on either ends which adds upto a massive pressure drop. Good work how much was the core ?
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Old Sep 17, 2003 | 01:13 PM
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Should be interesting to see her on the rollers on the 11th mate, not to mention a real honour for those of us who will be there who have followed your progress.
You really want clear indicators though!!

Although saying that I don't have any yet either!
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Old Sep 17, 2003 | 01:14 PM
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double post. Sorry.

[Edited by Twigster - 9/17/2003 4:42:16 PM]
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Old Sep 17, 2003 | 03:25 PM
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Well done Andy almost there!! Hope to see ya on the 11th.
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Old Sep 17, 2003 | 04:11 PM
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Booked in for Mapping on Friday 26th

Sent off "new modifications" form for the insurance this morning.

Back to the drawing board for the inlet pipe, buggered if I can get the one I made originally to fit, also the welds are terrible.

Exhaust tonight I think....
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Old Sep 17, 2003 | 04:32 PM
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"Insurance form"

Any mods to car, please put in the space provided

'10 pages later'

Fuzz "I think thats everything"
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Old Sep 17, 2003 | 04:43 PM
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lol @fuz and fuzz.
Too much fuzz in here
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Old Sep 17, 2003 | 10:28 PM
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Blimey fuzz that is clean

look 4ward to seeing it soon
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Old Sep 17, 2003 | 11:00 PM
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Catalunya wrote,

Thats the first time I have seen the collectors at the top and bottom like they should be. All the aftermarket ones seem to have them on either ends which adds upto a massive pressure drop. Good work how much was the core ?
About time someone recognised why I've done it this way, all to easy to buy stuff straight off the shelf...

A little bit of R&D tells you straight away that, THAT is how you are supposed to make an intercooler, I guess it's just not feasable or cost efficient to do it my way, I think the customers would have a fit about having to cut half of the front of the car off to get it in as well.

Andy F I remember posting a pic of his intercooler, saying that looks familiar, his pic showed a similar lay out but even his defeated the object (sorry Andy) (obviously it works though ) as his " charge air" passed up one core and then down the next... may as well have just had a left to right design .

Enough rambling anyway, the proof will be in the pudding ( or is that eating?)

Costs for the cores, yes two of them.. welded together by moi, as they don't make them in a single unit that size, according to Forge motorsport.
£750 for both cores including VAT, then £60 to have the end tanks rolled, 63mm high at one end, down to 10mm high at the other,
then once I had fabricated and welded the outlets/inlets and capped off the open ends, I took them back to be welded to the cores, included in the £60 mentioned above. (didn't feel happy about ******** £800 quids worth of intercooler with my hap hazard welding )

Exhaust done
Injectors I am led to believe have been posted thanks Bob
and an Inquiry has gone out to RCM on an inlet pipe. (David **** off )
I started to cut some fresh stainless up for it but the angles and the space does not lend it;s self to cut and shut pipework, really needs mandrel bending, Have no time, so I've buckled...


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Old Sep 17, 2003 | 11:33 PM
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Andy F I remember posting a pic of his intercooler, saying that looks familiar, his pic showed a similar lay out but even his defeated the object (sorry Andy) (obviously it works though ) as his " charge air" passed up one core and then down the next... may as well have just had a left to right design
Ahem I agree your way is the best for low pressure drop, not sure the effect on turbulence and subsequent heat transfer rate though ?
I could not have fitted such a large core as my current one 'side to side' as you suggest, without having too long a tube length. My core is 220H x 680W As the charge air flow runs up/down the effective tube length is still relatively short compared to APS etc at 2x220 =440mm and also the flow path CSA is greater at 340mm.

While I'm here the Pace cores were less than 1/2 that price and I welded the ends on myself and they've not fallen off yet

Nice work anyway

Andy

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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 10:16 AM
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From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
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and you can **** off If you mention my end tanks..

I also welded my end tanks on..

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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 12:05 PM
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David, that's because we are either talented, brave, stupid, game for a laugh or don't give a **** (delete as appropriate)
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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 02:19 PM
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From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
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andy..

I read that and cant find anything appropriate to delete..

Maybe its because he's a southerner..

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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 04:30 PM
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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 04:34 PM
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£256 for an inlet pipe

excuse me while I cough my tea up !!!


Andy <<<< More money than feckin sense

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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 05:06 PM
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From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
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LOL.. and I bet you bought one? whats wrong with a few samco's ala wallis..

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Old Sep 18, 2003 | 11:46 PM
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sorry david, totally forgot about your subaru motorsport parts bin..

and yes I have bought one

P.s excuse the peeps who don't know which thread they're on!


In response to Catalunyas post on Davids thread
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Good work on the intercooler it looks wicked.....apart from the visible amounts from the front how much had to be taken off the bumper? looking into doing a front mount myself coz i'm not happy with the aftermarket solutions......the bottom pipe looks a bit low dya think you will be allright ?"

The pictures show all, I took off only the opening as shown,
the core reaches from one bumper mount on one side, right up to the bumper mount on the other, but in actual fact only one or two "charge rows" are actually covered by the bumper it's self.
I am glad I got the height right, the lower end tank is millimetres from the cut edge of the bottom of the bumper, more luck than judgement.
The bottom pipe does stick down a little, but no lower than the lower strut brace underneath, so think it will be fine. (never scraped the strut brace) I am thinking of bending the lashing eye out a little to allow some more room, that will enable me to raise the pipework slightly, too much though and the transfer pipe will end up knocking on the head under the car, AKA APS stylee.
roughly a 70mm deep cut was put in the bumper (the core being 63mm thick)

away for the weekend now see you monday

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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 02:11 PM
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Nothing but praise for Roger Clark Motorsport.
On the phone to Olly last night at about 5.00pm and this is what turns up, first post today
Top dollar admittedly, but I like the service!





Andy

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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 03:10 PM
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Nice bit of kit! Shouldn't it be blue like all your other hoses though?
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 03:12 PM
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4 weeks lead time on the blue one...

I WILL have my own design made I think (future) through SAMCO or such like, I still think the bit that goes under the inlet manifold is too small.

P.s stop replying as you are distracting me from packing.

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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 04:53 PM
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Fuzz,

Back to your intercooler design, did you consider putting any deflectors on the end tanks (particularly the inlet side) to control airflow into the core. Everything I have read about intercooler design (not that much admittedly) suggests that long airlows across the ends of the core will need some 'help' in ensuring that the tubes are used evenly.

Andrew...
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 05:09 PM
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took me 1.5 hours to fit my inlet hose, on a MY01 Wrx

but should be eazyer on the beasty

hope it reaches your turbo ok, thats why scotty sold me his.



[Edited by fuz - 9/19/2003 5:16:46 PM]

[Edited by fuz - 9/19/2003 5:19:34 PM]
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Old Sep 19, 2003 | 10:58 PM
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Ha Ha how the hell did I manage to post on the wrong thread ? must have been something to do with them numerous cans of Stella I had that evening.
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