Here goes .............. ALL my money ;o)
Too slow man. 
Mailed you about half an hour ago
Things left to do.....
Fix the blowing exhaust (centre to downpipe join)
Make / Buy an Inlet pipe.
Buy and fit injectors
Visit Mr Rawle.
Have some FUN.

Andy
Oh and have it rolling roaded on the 11th October

Mailed you about half an hour ago

Things left to do.....
Fix the blowing exhaust (centre to downpipe join)
Make / Buy an Inlet pipe.
Buy and fit injectors
Visit Mr Rawle.
Have some FUN.

Andy
Oh and have it rolling roaded on the 11th October
fookin 'ell that's clean 
do you actually drive the car? sorry should have said, have you ever driven the car before stripping it to bits to fit all your diy mods?
You're not a real tart until you get those wedges and indicators sorted
Stefan

do you actually drive the car? sorry should have said, have you ever driven the car before stripping it to bits to fit all your diy mods?
You're not a real tart until you get those wedges and indicators sorted

Stefan
didn't look that clean at 4pm this afternoon. take a look back.... 
Nice to have it shining again though.
<fanfare>
Still, all will be grubby again in a day or two As I have FINALLY sorted some 740's
</fanfare>
not so sure I'll ahve enough doe left for the insurance though
Andy

Nice to have it shining again though.
<fanfare>
Still, all will be grubby again in a day or two As I have FINALLY sorted some 740's
</fanfare>
not so sure I'll ahve enough doe left for the insurance though

Andy
Thats the first time I have seen the collectors at the top and bottom like they should be. All the aftermarket ones seem to have them on either ends which adds upto a massive pressure drop. Good work how much was the core ?
Should be interesting to see her on the rollers on the 11th mate, not to mention a real honour for those of us who will be there who have followed your progress. 
You really want clear indicators though!!
Although saying that I don't have any yet either!

You really want clear indicators though!!
Although saying that I don't have any yet either!
Booked in for Mapping on Friday 26th 
Sent off "new modifications" form for the insurance this morning.
Back to the drawing board for the inlet pipe, buggered if I can get the one I made originally to fit, also the welds are terrible.
Exhaust tonight I think....

Sent off "new modifications" form for the insurance this morning.
Back to the drawing board for the inlet pipe, buggered if I can get the one I made originally to fit, also the welds are terrible.

Exhaust tonight I think....
Catalunya wrote,
Thats the first time I have seen the collectors at the top and bottom like they should be. All the aftermarket ones seem to have them on either ends which adds upto a massive pressure drop. Good work how much was the core ?
Thats the first time I have seen the collectors at the top and bottom like they should be. All the aftermarket ones seem to have them on either ends which adds upto a massive pressure drop. Good work how much was the core ?
A little bit of R&D tells you straight away that, THAT is how you are supposed to make an intercooler, I guess it's just not feasable or cost efficient to do it my way, I think the customers would have a fit about having to cut half of the front of the car off to get it in as well.

Andy F I remember posting a pic of his intercooler, saying that looks familiar, his pic showed a similar lay out but even his defeated the object (sorry Andy) (obviously it works though
) as his " charge air" passed up one core and then down the next... may as well have just had a left to right design
.Enough rambling anyway, the proof will be in the pudding ( or is that eating?)
Costs for the cores, yes two of them.. welded together by moi, as they don't make them in a single unit that size, according to Forge motorsport.
£750 for both cores including VAT, then £60 to have the end tanks rolled, 63mm high at one end, down to 10mm high at the other,
then once I had fabricated and welded the outlets/inlets and capped off the open ends, I took them back to be welded to the cores, included in the £60 mentioned above. (didn't feel happy about ******** £800 quids worth of intercooler with my hap hazard welding
) Exhaust done

Injectors I am led to believe have been posted

thanks Boband an Inquiry has gone out to RCM on an inlet pipe. (David **** off
)I started to cut some fresh stainless up for it but the angles and the space does not lend it;s self to cut and shut pipework, really needs mandrel bending, Have no time, so I've buckled...
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Andy F I remember posting a pic of his intercooler, saying that looks familiar, his pic showed a similar lay out but even his defeated the object (sorry Andy) (obviously it works though ) as his " charge air" passed up one core and then down the next... may as well have just had a left to right design
I agree your way is the best for low pressure drop, not sure the effect on turbulence and subsequent heat transfer rate though ? I could not have fitted such a large core as my current one 'side to side' as you suggest, without having too long a tube length. My core is 220H x 680W As the charge air flow runs up/down the effective tube length is still relatively short compared to APS etc at 2x220 =440mm and also the flow path CSA is greater at 340mm.
While I'm here
the Pace cores were less than 1/2 that price and I welded the ends on myself
and they've not fallen off yet

Nice work anyway

Andy
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andy..
I read that and cant find anything appropriate to delete..
Maybe its because he's a southerner..
David
I read that and cant find anything appropriate to delete..
Maybe its because he's a southerner..
David
sorry david, totally forgot about your subaru motorsport parts bin..
and yes I have bought one
P.s excuse the peeps who don't know which thread they're on!
In response to Catalunyas post on Davids thread
"
Good work on the intercooler it looks wicked.....apart from the visible amounts from the front how much had to be taken off the bumper? looking into doing a front mount myself coz i'm not happy with the aftermarket solutions......the bottom pipe looks a bit low dya think you will be allright ?"
The pictures show all, I took off only the opening as shown,
the core reaches from one bumper mount on one side, right up to the bumper mount on the other, but in actual fact only one or two "charge rows" are actually covered by the bumper it's self.
I am glad I got the height right, the lower end tank is millimetres from the cut edge of the bottom of the bumper, more luck than judgement.
The bottom pipe does stick down a little, but no lower than the lower strut brace underneath, so think it will be fine. (never scraped the strut brace) I am thinking of bending the lashing eye out a little to allow some more room, that will enable me to raise the pipework slightly, too much though and the transfer pipe will end up knocking on the head under the car, AKA APS stylee.
roughly a 70mm deep cut was put in the bumper (the core being 63mm thick)
away for the weekend now
see you monday
Andy
and yes I have bought one

P.s excuse the peeps who don't know which thread they're on!

In response to Catalunyas post on Davids thread

"
Good work on the intercooler it looks wicked.....apart from the visible amounts from the front how much had to be taken off the bumper? looking into doing a front mount myself coz i'm not happy with the aftermarket solutions......the bottom pipe looks a bit low dya think you will be allright ?"
The pictures show all, I took off only the opening as shown,
the core reaches from one bumper mount on one side, right up to the bumper mount on the other, but in actual fact only one or two "charge rows" are actually covered by the bumper it's self.
I am glad I got the height right, the lower end tank is millimetres from the cut edge of the bottom of the bumper, more luck than judgement.

The bottom pipe does stick down a little, but no lower than the lower strut brace underneath, so think it will be fine. (never scraped the strut brace) I am thinking of bending the lashing eye out a little to allow some more room, that will enable me to raise the pipework slightly, too much though and the transfer pipe will end up knocking on the head under the car, AKA APS stylee.
roughly a 70mm deep cut was put in the bumper (the core being 63mm thick)
away for the weekend now
see you mondayAndy
Nothing but praise for Roger Clark Motorsport.
On the phone to Olly last night at about 5.00pm and this is what turns up, first post today
Top dollar admittedly, but I like the service!


Andy
On the phone to Olly last night at about 5.00pm and this is what turns up, first post today

Top dollar admittedly, but I like the service!


Andy
Last edited by Fuzz; Feb 14, 2005 at 09:01 PM.
4 weeks lead time on the blue one... 
I WILL have my own design made I think (future) through SAMCO or such like, I still think the bit that goes under the inlet manifold is too small.
P.s stop replying as you are distracting me from packing.
Andy

I WILL have my own design made I think (future) through SAMCO or such like, I still think the bit that goes under the inlet manifold is too small.

P.s stop replying as you are distracting me from packing.

Andy
Fuzz,
Back to your intercooler design, did you consider putting any deflectors on the end tanks (particularly the inlet side) to control airflow into the core. Everything I have read about intercooler design (not that much admittedly) suggests that long airlows across the ends of the core will need some 'help' in ensuring that the tubes are used evenly.
Andrew...
Back to your intercooler design, did you consider putting any deflectors on the end tanks (particularly the inlet side) to control airflow into the core. Everything I have read about intercooler design (not that much admittedly) suggests that long airlows across the ends of the core will need some 'help' in ensuring that the tubes are used evenly.
Andrew...
took me 1.5 hours to fit my inlet hose, on a MY01 Wrx
but should be eazyer on the beasty
hope it reaches your turbo ok, thats why scotty sold me his.

[Edited by fuz - 9/19/2003 5:16:46 PM]
[Edited by fuz - 9/19/2003 5:19:34 PM]
but should be eazyer on the beasty
hope it reaches your turbo ok, thats why scotty sold me his.

[Edited by fuz - 9/19/2003 5:16:46 PM]
[Edited by fuz - 9/19/2003 5:19:34 PM]


