Coronavirus Pah!
26 March 2021, 02:07 PM
#1501
AZ has a current huge advantage over all the major vaccines its transportability, requires minimal cooling to keep vaccine active.
This is why its popular across the world, especially warmer climates
AZ are working to modify new vaccines against new variants.
This is why its popular across the world, especially warmer climates
AZ are working to modify new vaccines against new variants.
26 March 2021, 03:03 PM
#1504
Scooby Senior
Looks like the UK has now caved in and will now accept a reduced delivery from AZ so the EU can get more.
26 March 2021, 03:23 PM
#1505
I dont see anything about UK offering UK plants to supply Eu until after Contracts have been satisfied.
Has I said before, jealousy of UK. I dont see Eu threatening USA with same arrangements to fulfill domestic vaccines first
If VDL,I say VDL because she doesn't have the backing of countries to block UK, UK will most likely retaliate cutting off base ingredients. It will be many months to scale up production
26 March 2021, 04:15 PM
#1509
Scooby Senior
The EU has also exported almost nothing to the USA, the USA is self sufficient, the UK is not!
The UK placed only a small order with Pfeizer and Moderna and betted heavily on AZ, what the UK is taking from the Pfeizer supply to the EU barely scratches the surface. Pfeizer is by far currently the biggest supply in EU while AZ supplies are quite limited. Moderna have had major production problems and are now only just starting to come online. J&J are now also ramping up production in the EU which as a single dose which doesn't need the cold storage will make a huge impact.
Looks like Johnson has agreed to stop taking AZ from EU as long as the UK still gets its Pfeizer doses! Shame he couldn't have done that in February rather than pursuing his policy of being greedy, then the whole affair could have been avoided! Nobody is going to able to travel and fully open up the economy until all countries have adequate vaccination to suppress the spread of the disease and restrictions can be eased, so greedily vaccinating your own country first is ultimately futile!
The UK placed only a small order with Pfeizer and Moderna and betted heavily on AZ, what the UK is taking from the Pfeizer supply to the EU barely scratches the surface. Pfeizer is by far currently the biggest supply in EU while AZ supplies are quite limited. Moderna have had major production problems and are now only just starting to come online. J&J are now also ramping up production in the EU which as a single dose which doesn't need the cold storage will make a huge impact.
Looks like Johnson has agreed to stop taking AZ from EU as long as the UK still gets its Pfeizer doses! Shame he couldn't have done that in February rather than pursuing his policy of being greedy, then the whole affair could have been avoided! Nobody is going to able to travel and fully open up the economy until all countries have adequate vaccination to suppress the spread of the disease and restrictions can be eased, so greedily vaccinating your own country first is ultimately futile!
26 March 2021, 04:24 PM
#1511
Scooby Senior
30 March 2021, 08:19 AM
#1517
Scooby Senior
30 March 2021, 01:40 PM
#1520
Scooby Regular
Lockdown boredom sightseeing / not having to go to the office is now merging with every other holiday
free parking don’t help
this place was never choc an bloc like this before - even at height any summer day in the past !
Only 2 roads out of town
free parking don’t help
this place was never choc an bloc like this before - even at height any summer day in the past !
Only 2 roads out of town
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30 March 2021, 01:52 PM
#1521
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This should give the EU something to moan about, the UK making its own vaccine. Wonder if Dominic Cummings arranged it during his visit 
https://news.sky.com/story/up-to-60m...-says-12260230
https://news.sky.com/story/up-to-60m...-says-12260230
30 March 2021, 02:00 PM
#1522
Scooby Senior
More bad press for the AZ vaccine, now Canada have blocked it for under 55s over blood clots!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...those-under-55
Germany is also reporting 31 cases of rare CSVT blood clots, all but two cases are Women and all under the age of 65, In some Berlin immunisation centres they have now also stopped vaccinating women under 55.
While I would still say the risks vs benefits are probably worth continuing its use, there certainly seems to be something amiss!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...those-under-55
Germany is also reporting 31 cases of rare CSVT blood clots, all but two cases are Women and all under the age of 65, In some Berlin immunisation centres they have now also stopped vaccinating women under 55.
While I would still say the risks vs benefits are probably worth continuing its use, there certainly seems to be something amiss!
30 March 2021, 03:23 PM
#1524
[QUOTE=BMWhere?;12102032]More bad press for the AZ vaccine, now Canada have blocked it for under 55s over blood clots!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...those-under-55
Germany is also reporting 31 cases of rare CSVT blood clots, all but two cases are Women and all under the age of 65, In some Berlin immunisation centres they have now also stopped vaccinating women under 55.
While I would still say the risks vs benefits are probably worth continuing its use, there certainly seems to be something amiss![/QUOTE]
You do realise that the actual percentage is like 0.005% Incidence. Statistically irrelevant.
So you better stop living, driving, opening a can of food. The chances of serious injury is higher
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...those-under-55
Germany is also reporting 31 cases of rare CSVT blood clots, all but two cases are Women and all under the age of 65, In some Berlin immunisation centres they have now also stopped vaccinating women under 55.
While I would still say the risks vs benefits are probably worth continuing its use, there certainly seems to be something amiss![/QUOTE]
You do realise that the actual percentage is like 0.005% Incidence. Statistically irrelevant.
So you better stop living, driving, opening a can of food. The chances of serious injury is higher
30 March 2021, 03:54 PM
#1525
Scooby Senior
[QUOTE=andy97;12102045]
Erm, yes! That's why I said it should be continued to be used! 
More bad press for the AZ vaccine, now Canada have blocked it for under 55s over blood clots!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...those-under-55
Germany is also reporting 31 cases of rare CSVT blood clots, all but two cases are Women and all under the age of 65, In some Berlin immunisation centres they have now also stopped vaccinating women under 55.
While I would still say the risks vs benefits are probably worth continuing its use, there certainly seems to be something amiss![/QUOTE]
You do realise that the actual percentage is like 0.005% Incidence. Statistically irrelevant.
So you better stop living, driving, opening a can of food. The chances of serious injury is higher
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...those-under-55
Germany is also reporting 31 cases of rare CSVT blood clots, all but two cases are Women and all under the age of 65, In some Berlin immunisation centres they have now also stopped vaccinating women under 55.
While I would still say the risks vs benefits are probably worth continuing its use, there certainly seems to be something amiss![/QUOTE]
You do realise that the actual percentage is like 0.005% Incidence. Statistically irrelevant.
So you better stop living, driving, opening a can of food. The chances of serious injury is higher
30 March 2021, 05:06 PM
#1526
[QUOTE=BMWhere?;12102046]There are no ifs or buts about it.
The vaccine has been proved to be safe. Its terrible misfortune for those who have had issues. But they haven't been attributed to the vaccine, they could have had clots for many reasons.
Pfizer has a slightly higher reported figure than AZ, but again statistically insignificant
The vaccine has been proved to be safe. Its terrible misfortune for those who have had issues. But they haven't been attributed to the vaccine, they could have had clots for many reasons.
Pfizer has a slightly higher reported figure than AZ, but again statistically insignificant
30 March 2021, 05:23 PM
#1527
Scooby Senior
[QUOTE=andy97;12102050]
There are no ifs or buts about it.
The vaccine has been proved to be safe. Its terrible misfortune for those who have had issues. But they haven't been attributed to the vaccine, they could have had clots for many reasons.
Pfizer has a slightly higher reported figure than AZ, but again statistically insignificant
OK Doctor Andy, I'll take your expert word for it and ignore anything the idiots at Paul Ehrlich Institute in Germany advise! Thanks for clearing that up
There are no ifs or buts about it.
The vaccine has been proved to be safe. Its terrible misfortune for those who have had issues. But they haven't been attributed to the vaccine, they could have had clots for many reasons.
Pfizer has a slightly higher reported figure than AZ, but again statistically insignificant
30 March 2021, 06:55 PM
#1528
[QUOTE=BMWhere?;12102052]
The EMA, WHO, MHRA. and lets not forget, the millions of recipients that haven't had thrombosis.
The current stats are 1 incident per 100000 in the UK and 1 per 84000 for Europe.
Statistically insignificant.
Maybe the EU has upset AZ, cant think why
The current stats are 1 incident per 100000 in the UK and 1 per 84000 for Europe.
Statistically insignificant.
Maybe the EU has upset AZ, cant think why
30 March 2021, 10:10 PM
#1529
More bad press for the AZ vaccine, now Canada have blocked it for under 55s over blood clots!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...those-under-55
Germany is also reporting 31 cases of rare CSVT blood clots, all but two cases are Women and all under the age of 65, In some Berlin immunisation centres they have now also stopped vaccinating women under 55.
While I would still say the risks vs benefits are probably worth continuing its use, there certainly seems to be something amiss!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...those-under-55
Germany is also reporting 31 cases of rare CSVT blood clots, all but two cases are Women and all under the age of 65, In some Berlin immunisation centres they have now also stopped vaccinating women under 55.
While I would still say the risks vs benefits are probably worth continuing its use, there certainly seems to be something amiss!
Need to edit that...31 cases in 2.7 million!!
Grab 2.7million random people and I bet you will find a number will have underlying issues that would cause a thrombosis.
30 March 2021, 10:37 PM
#1530
Finally British news is now highlighting how indoor spread occurs.
Been saying it all along (https://www.scoobynet.com/1061100-co...l#post12091960 )...the plastic dividers, distancing, masks, whatever just buys time indoors. The longer spent inside, the bigger the risk of transmission.
Proven when a quarantine hotel caused transmission from one room to an adjacent room when both doors were opened at the same time.
Now pubs/restaurants are bypassing indoor rules by having marquees. But if closed sided and no through-breeze they are no safer than being indoors.
worth re-linking:https://english.elpais.com/society/2...h-the-air.html
Been saying it all along (https://www.scoobynet.com/1061100-co...l#post12091960 )...the plastic dividers, distancing, masks, whatever just buys time indoors. The longer spent inside, the bigger the risk of transmission.
Proven when a quarantine hotel caused transmission from one room to an adjacent room when both doors were opened at the same time.
Now pubs/restaurants are bypassing indoor rules by having marquees. But if closed sided and no through-breeze they are no safer than being indoors.
worth re-linking:https://english.elpais.com/society/2...h-the-air.html
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