dpb

Ah yes , our awesome new trading advantages lol


https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.ind...801.html%3famp

dpb

Stumblingly desperate to find some positive spin

neil-h

i thought that was what Brexit was supposed to give us

andy97

iTrader: (1)

I can only tell you my own experience from a business perspective. Im an investor in a UK manufacturing company which has had a bumper year on the back of the pound devaluing against other major currencies. Its allowed them to be a lot more competitive in Europe with sales increasing 30%. So much so that to further improve cost efficiency are opening a plant in Europe. Also there has been a big increase in interest in the USA, so will be expanding with warehouse storage initially maybe followed by a plant there.

The announcement to Leave the EU has done nothing but good from what I can see and hear from my investment.

Supplementary to that the company reports from their suppliers that business is on the up across the whole sector.

JackClark

Awesome, so the pound has crashed and investment is going overseas. Thanks for leaving us with our sovereignty.

Petem95

Well let me know when you find some (from the Remain angle..)

So besides BMWWhere all you other Remainers can just offer moaning and whinging - no intelligent debate, just coming across all bitter that things didn't go your way.

dpb

Yes but its completely obvious , to you even , that the 5% who made this happen are never going to get what they voted for

Petem95

When you say 5% I'm assuming you mean 52%? (8% more voted for leave than remain)

What I'm getting at though is you're just in a permanent frenzy about how terrible brexit is, but you fail to offer any response with regards to the current state of the EU, whether you believe it's sustainable in it's current form, your opinion on Poland, Hungary and CZ being sued by the EU etc.

Care to offer an opinion, or are you just going to leave it at "EU is perfect, brexit is silly" *toys out the pram*

andy97

iTrader: (1)

​​​​​​Not quite jack the holding company is UK based, yes investment in some aspects are foreign, but profits will be brought back to the UK for the shareholders to spend as they wish, on products people in the UK most likely. I could on the other hand spend it on a foreign holiday home

Dingdongler

No, not strange logic, you just fail to grasp it.

I have NEVER said that those that voted to remain are stupid/misguided/misinformed etc. They just have a particular view, which I still respect.

That is the difference between you and I. Your position is one of assuming that anyone whose opinion differs to yours is stupid. You've said that time and time again and frankly it's getting ****ing boring

Sad Weevil

iTrader: (1)

You asked me if I thought leavers were stupid, my answer was a straightforward 'No, they were misinformed'. I'll remind you, there was a double decker bus driving around with a big sign on it suggesting that the NHS would receive an extra £350 million a week if we left. Many people were swayed by this, because they believed it. It was misinformation. People were misinformed, because it wasn't true. I repeat, I do not think that leave voters were stupid. Can't make it any clearer I'm afraid. Plenty of people on here have clearly stated they think leave voters are stupid, why don't you have a pop at them instead?

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

Nope.

The sign said "Let's fund our NHS instead"!.

ie: we could.....not we will. Or even, why don't we...?

Remainers have been telling this lie for months now, time it was put to bed.

Martin2005

Do we not already 'fund our NHS' then?

You know exactly what the was about, so don't come it.

hodgy0_2

fwiw, it was pretty clear what you meant

and as a Brexiteer told me the other day "only a moron believed the 350/nhs claim anyway"

indeed - i just link them to the original (Warren) referendum thread on Scoobynet

all the evidence is there

Sad Weevil

iTrader: (1)

I said "suggesting" that we would use the money to fund the NHS, same thing as you've just said. What do you think the purpose of that stunt was? What do you think it was really supposed to mean? How do you think it should have been interpreted by undecided voters? And anyway, the £350 million figure was untrue, the net figure is more like £136 million. Do you not think that was misleading?

andy97

iTrader: (1)

Net/Gross, its still a lot of money. Its water under the bridge now, the decision has been made. The UK is leaving the EU.

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

1. No, not properly.

2. No, I don't, and I think you are being naive to believe the remainer lies.

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

Not really, but let's not split hairs. I can be magnanimous in victory.

Not agreeing it was a stunt, but probably to open people's eyes to the terrific waste of throwing money at the ex-communist bloc states.

"Why not fund the NHS with it instead?"

As it was, or do the obvious thing and ask for clarification.

AAh, the remainer lie of "disappearing" the money....it exists, regardless of what we get back. And no.

dpb

Not agreeing it was a stunt, but probably to open people's eyes to the terrific waste of throwing money at the ex-communist bloc states.


Ah yes, those emerging markets we'll now have to seek from Tother side the planet

andy97

iTrader: (1)

Its going to take decades for the Eastern European countries to have a significant amount of product, infrastructure interest for the UK to bother with, in any great amount. Better to seek out flourishing economies further a field.

Now given that certain eastern European countries are becoming alot more Eurosceptic, I doubt the the EU will be funding them a great deal either, leading to possible expulsion or voluntarily leaving the EU superstate.

dpb

Lets just hope electric wind power tech comes in next couple years so all that extra shipping doesn't actually sink those far flung emerging markets..!

Brexieteer, beyond those confudled regaining of Sovereignty advocates, let's face it are counting / voted for EU collapse.


the remaninder of the out vote comprising semi arrogant ones who want everything for nothing

mrtheedge2u2

What did you base your opinion that certain eastern European countries are becoming a lot more Eurosceptic on? I am from Manchester but live in mainland Europe and one thing that the UK press do is constantly repeat that country A and country B want to leave the EU (they stated Holland wanted to leave and in reality it was about 0.2% who wanted to) and it is complete nonsense.

David Lock

Has this been posted?

dpb

And now we're leaving we can tell exactly where to stick it

Whilst business migrates across la manche

joz8968

iTrader: (13)

Ha, I was watching that only yesterday.

alcazar

iTrader: (2)

Yes, the ones that now have all the manufacturing, thanks to EU grants, the ones whose citizens are in the UK doing the jobs our youth need, the ones that export FAR more to us than we export to them. What, are you SO thick?

dpb

yeah , just sort of suspend things for few years , like we're part the club still but don't pay our fees lol

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7788786.html

dpb

French outstripping our gdp

all that quantative easing presumably

markjmd

iTrader: (11)

If all the manufacturing has as you say moved to mainland Europe, why is it that their citizens still feel the need to come over here and look for jobs?

ALi-B

iTrader: (1)

Loss of manufacturing never meant there was a loss of job demand; Just a loss of a major part of a export economy. We still have a massive services sector, in fact an over-reliance on it (over 75% of the UK economy) in a sector which doesn't really export or bring money in from overseas. The sole exception is the financial sector, again something we are massively over-reliant upon.


The U.K. has a good draw factor from countries that offer lesser opertunities or welfare. The rabble camping in Calais (that I've seen first hand) show that regardless of jobs people want to be here at any cost.