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17 January 2015, 11:20 AM
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But you did, your cheap shot I was referring to was your last sentence in your post #19, just after a few posts earlier when I posted my views with regards to these TV debates. So if you believe that those who don't like these TV debates are small minded, then I agree that you were in 2010, only I'd argue that you still are to this day. Hope that is clear enough for you. 
I'm not so vain as to make comparisons of myself with other forum members, it makes no difference to me whether you like me or not or what you think of me, it's an internet forum! But if what I say annoys the absolute f**k out of you, I guess I can live with that and still be happy.
With regards to Farage, for what it's worth, I agree with you in that he is shaking up British politics, but he is not bringing in anything remotely honest other than xenophobia, he is still a bell end of greedy gravy train riding lying cheating scumbag career politician.
I'm not so vain as to make comparisons of myself with other forum members, it makes no difference to me whether you like me or not or what you think of me, it's an internet forum! But if what I say annoys the absolute f**k out of you, I guess I can live with that and still be happy.
With regards to Farage, for what it's worth, I agree with you in that he is shaking up British politics, but he is not bringing in anything remotely honest other than xenophobia, he is still a bell end of greedy gravy train riding lying cheating scumbag career politician.
I fell asleep after the first dull boring repetitive sentence. I'm sure the rest of your post was just as 'good' 
17 January 2015, 11:31 AM
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Much like the participants last time round, better suited to that than running he country. This time however there's a new player in the game and despite the opinion of the resident forum Tory ****** I think he is a different breed to the other three. I don't agree with everything he says, buy he seems to say it for the right reasons. Cameron is obviously wary of him anyway.... cowardly little **** that he is!
17 January 2015, 11:58 AM
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The main three are now all capitalist 'career parties' in my mind. Not one of their MPs seem to possess an original thought pooled between them! They just pander to 'TV/social media politics' and trot out time and again what they think we want to hear. When interviewed, you can almost see their little numbskulls in their heads working overtime to give the 'correct answer' to the interviewer. Makes my blood boil. They're so guarded against not wanting to say 'the wrong thing'. It really is a case of, "Yada, yada..." 
(However, that said, we, the electorate, can be just as guilty - we can be quite fickle at times). They know this - which is why they're always trying to second-guess us. Their priority is always after the vote...the power... Ergo, sometimes at the expense of change for the better.
What has happened to the 'nobility' of the privilege of the calling ... The conviction politicians/politics?
Okay, in the (obviously, unlikely) hypothetical scenario of UKIP getting in power, when the heat is on, Farage may of course get 'found out'... But right here, right now, could he really do any worse...?!
(However, that said, we, the electorate, can be just as guilty - we can be quite fickle at times). They know this - which is why they're always trying to second-guess us. Their priority is always after the vote...the power... Ergo, sometimes at the expense of change for the better.What has happened to the 'nobility' of the privilege of the calling ... The conviction politicians/politics?
Okay, in the (obviously, unlikely) hypothetical scenario of UKIP getting in power, when the heat is on, Farage may of course get 'found out'... But right here, right now, could he really do any worse...?!
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17 January 2015, 12:00 PM
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17 January 2015, 12:00 PM
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We need to be clear with the smiley, or it could cause unsettling feelings among us invisible community members. Also, why is that notworthy smiley not got ':' at its @rse end. That also fvkks it up sometimes.
It has always played in my mind, but I only recently questioned it. I haven't had any answer yet.
17 January 2015, 12:03 PM
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The main three are now all capitalist 'career parties' in my mind. Not one of their MPs seem to possess an original thought pooled between them! They just pander to 'TV/social media politics' and trot out time and again what they think we want to hear. When interviewed, you can almost see their little numbskulls in their heads working overtime to give the 'correct answer' to the interviewer. Makes my blood boil. They're so guarded against not wanting to say 'the wrong thing'. It really is a case of, "Yada, yada..." (However, that said, we, the electorate, can be just as guilty - we can be quite fickle at times).
What has happened to the 'nobility' of the privilege of the calling ... The conviction politicians/politics?
Okay, in the (obviously, unlikely) hypothetical scenario of UKIP getting in power, when the heat is on, Farage may of course get 'found out'... But right here, right now, could, he really do any worse...?!
(However, that said, we, the electorate, can be just as guilty - we can be quite fickle at times).What has happened to the 'nobility' of the privilege of the calling ... The conviction politicians/politics?
Okay, in the (obviously, unlikely) hypothetical scenario of UKIP getting in power, when the heat is on, Farage may of course get 'found out'... But right here, right now, could, he really do any worse...?!
17 January 2015, 12:06 PM
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I'd like to know why that bowing / kissing feet / bend over smiley is called 'notworthy'. 'Not' is a negative word, and if that is used with the word 'worthy', then do SN Admin mean that we need to use it when we are being bitter and twisted towards people's achievements, or can we continue to use it to appreciate such ? We need to be clear with the smiley, or it could cause unsettling feelings among us invisible community members.
Also, why is that notworthy smiley not got ':' at its @rse end. That also fvkks it up sometimes.
It has always played in my mind, but I only recently questioned it. I haven't had any answer yet.
We need to be clear with the smiley, or it could cause unsettling feelings among us invisible community members. Also, why is that notworthy smiley not got ':' at its @rse end. That also fvkks it up sometimes.
It has always played in my mind, but I only recently questioned it. I haven't had any answer yet.
Therefore it is a complement when used as an emoticon to the person you are directing it towards as you are saying 'I am not worthy'.
17 January 2015, 12:14 PM
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The emoticon is derived from the scene in Wayne's World where they meet Alice Cooper (I think) and bow down repeatedly 'worshipping' him and uttering 'we are not worthy'.
Therefore it is a complement when used as an emoticon to the person you are directing it towards as you are saying 'I am not worthy'.
Therefore it is a complement when used as an emoticon to the person you are directing it towards as you are saying 'I am not worthy'.
But when I use this smiley, I never mean to say I'm not worthy, and they're worthier than me. Not at all. I just like to say that they're, or what they have is worthy where it stands by itself. Therefore I still find it ambiguous.
Anyway, you've answered my query now, so thank you, Chris. I will certainly be using this smiley with more positive outlook about it in future.
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17 January 2015, 12:16 PM
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F1 has explained it.
Also, TH, I think the emoticons can only have a certain amount of max. characters (10, I think...?), hence why the usual 'end colon' is omitted on some.
<<< unlike that one lol
Also, TH, I think the emoticons can only have a certain amount of max. characters (10, I think...?), hence why the usual 'end colon' is omitted on some.
<<< unlike that one lol
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17 January 2015, 12:21 PM
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When I ran a forum, I think I used as many characters as I liked; to denote emoticons. May be I was limited, but I can't remember, as it was such a long time ago.
17 January 2015, 08:16 PM
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The main three are now all capitalist 'career parties' in my mind. Not one of their MPs seem to possess an original thought pooled between them! They just pander to 'TV/social media politics' and trot out time and again what they think we want to hear. When interviewed, you can almost see their little numbskulls in their heads working overtime to give the 'correct answer' to the interviewer. Makes my blood boil. They're so guarded against not wanting to say 'the wrong thing'. It really is a case of, "Yada, yada..." :rolleyes (However, that said, we, the electorate, can be just as guilty - we can be quite fickle at times). They know this - which is why they're always trying to second-guess us. Their priority is always after the vote...the power... Ergo, sometimes at the expense of change for the better.
What has happened to the 'nobility' of the privilege of the calling ... The conviction politicians/politics?
Okay, in the (obviously, unlikely) hypothetical scenario of UKIP getting in power, when the heat is on, Farage may of course get 'found out'... But right here, right now, could he really do any worse...?!
What has happened to the 'nobility' of the privilege of the calling ... The conviction politicians/politics?
Okay, in the (obviously, unlikely) hypothetical scenario of UKIP getting in power, when the heat is on, Farage may of course get 'found out'... But right here, right now, could he really do any worse...?!
.I personally think social media has been one of the worst things to happen to politics for the reasons you have mentioned. I would like to see the internet closed down as we know it and start again as a sort of modern day extention of the yellow pages, for business use only, basically no anonymity or social media.
17 January 2015, 09:51 PM
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I don't do serious (usually). 
I REFUSE to take life too seriously... It's sort of futile when you think about it (unless you're hell bent driven to leave a noble legacy for others after you're gone, for example). Sadly, I don't have any useful talents/drive to 'make a difference'; hence my personal perspective on life. Just try to live the here and now.
I agree - the general public are a bit crap, let's face it. So they need saving from themselves i.e. we've gotta get rid of this US imported circus!
In the case of politics, ignorance is better (for the average, mainly indifferent, person in the street, that is). But, of course, that doesn't mean politicians should be unaccountable for any unlawful **** they may get up to. A fine balance needs to be achieved.
And as for the media getting involved in court cases and 'outing' the accused before the trial has even begun, let alone finished... Well, don't get me started! If there's one last bastion where the media should be banned from reporting (until after final verdict has been delivered), it's the judicial system. It's trial by a jury of 12 peers and not by the bloody X Factor generation FFS. It's as fair/practicable a system as you're likely to come up with, and has served us for centuries.
Just stop it! Stop it now!
I REFUSE to take life too seriously... It's sort of futile when you think about it (unless you're hell bent driven to leave a noble legacy for others after you're gone, for example). Sadly, I don't have any useful talents/drive to 'make a difference'; hence my personal perspective on life. Just try to live the here and now.I agree - the general public are a bit crap, let's face it. So they need saving from themselves i.e. we've gotta get rid of this US imported circus!
In the case of politics, ignorance is better (for the average, mainly indifferent, person in the street, that is). But, of course, that doesn't mean politicians should be unaccountable for any unlawful **** they may get up to. A fine balance needs to be achieved.And as for the media getting involved in court cases and 'outing' the accused before the trial has even begun, let alone finished... Well, don't get me started! If there's one last bastion where the media should be banned from reporting (until after final verdict has been delivered), it's the judicial system. It's trial by a jury of 12 peers and not by the bloody X Factor generation FFS. It's as fair/practicable a system as you're likely to come up with, and has served us for centuries.
Just stop it! Stop it now!
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17 January 2015, 11:26 PM
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I don't do serious (usually). I REFUSE to take life too seriously... It's sort of futile when you think about it (unless you're hell bent driven to leave a noble legacy for others after you're gone, for example). Sadly, I don't have any useful talents/drive to 'make a difference'; hence my personal perspective on life. Just try to live the here and now.
I agree - the general public are a bit crap, let's face it. So they need saving from themselves i.e. we've gotta get rid of this US imported circus! In the case of politics, ignorance is better (for the average, mainly indifferent, person in the street, that is). But, of course, that doesn't mean politicians should be unaccountable for any unlawful **** they may get up to. A fine balance needs to be achieved.
And as for the media getting involved in court cases and 'outing' the accused before the trial has even begun, let alone finished... Well, don't get me started! If there's one last bastion where the media should be banned from reporting (until after final verdict has been delivered), it's the judicial system. It's trial by a jury of 12 peers and not by the bloody X Factor generation FFS. It's as fair/practicable a system as you're likely to come up with, and has served us for centuries.
Just stop it! Stop it now!
I REFUSE to take life too seriously... It's sort of futile when you think about it (unless you're hell bent driven to leave a noble legacy for others after you're gone, for example). Sadly, I don't have any useful talents/drive to 'make a difference'; hence my personal perspective on life. Just try to live the here and now.I agree - the general public are a bit crap, let's face it. So they need saving from themselves i.e. we've gotta get rid of this US imported circus!
In the case of politics, ignorance is better (for the average, mainly indifferent, person in the street, that is). But, of course, that doesn't mean politicians should be unaccountable for any unlawful **** they may get up to. A fine balance needs to be achieved.And as for the media getting involved in court cases and 'outing' the accused before the trial has even begun, let alone finished... Well, don't get me started! If there's one last bastion where the media should be banned from reporting (until after final verdict has been delivered), it's the judicial system. It's trial by a jury of 12 peers and not by the bloody X Factor generation FFS. It's as fair/practicable a system as you're likely to come up with, and has served us for centuries.
Just stop it! Stop it now!
Back to funny now though......oh, on a side note my wife was sat next to me whilst I was reading your earlier post and she said, "oh i see why you go on this site now" referring to your avatar.
24 January 2015, 05:38 AM
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Personally I think DC has, as all politicians do, played politics.
The Greens aren't going to have an impact on him. They have some real 'socialist' policies ie renationalisation of industries, much higher minimum wage, scrapping of the welfare cap, scrapping of tuition fees, no involvement of the private sector in the NHS.
This will provide a massive headache for Ed Milliband and Clegg. It will expose them as not really having any 'socialist' values.
In terms of pure election strategy, quite a smart move by the Tories.
The Greens aren't going to have an impact on him. They have some real 'socialist' policies ie renationalisation of industries, much higher minimum wage, scrapping of the welfare cap, scrapping of tuition fees, no involvement of the private sector in the NHS.
This will provide a massive headache for Ed Milliband and Clegg. It will expose them as not really having any 'socialist' values.
In terms of pure election strategy, quite a smart move by the Tories.
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Personally I think DC has, as all politicians do, played politics.
The Greens aren't going to have an impact on him. They have some real 'socialist' policies ie renationalisation of industries, much higher minimum wage, scrapping of the welfare cap, scrapping of tuition fees, no involvement of the private sector in the NHS.
This will provide a massive headache for Ed Milliband and Clegg. It will expose them as not really having any 'socialist' values.
In terms of pure election strategy, quite a smart move by the Tories.
The Greens aren't going to have an impact on him. They have some real 'socialist' policies ie renationalisation of industries, much higher minimum wage, scrapping of the welfare cap, scrapping of tuition fees, no involvement of the private sector in the NHS.
This will provide a massive headache for Ed Milliband and Clegg. It will expose them as not really having any 'socialist' values.
In terms of pure election strategy, quite a smart move by the Tories.
It's like it's become a euphemism for mentalist 'looney left' policies. 
Mind you I suppose I should be thankful that at last people are realising Miliband's Labour are about as socialist as Maggie!
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24 January 2015, 05:46 PM
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To be fair, I don't think Tony Blair understood socialism either. If he as a self claimed "socialist" is seen to represent what is supposed to be socialism, then its quite easy to get confused.
< insert reference to whatever 1990's "I am a Socialist" quote Blair made during his campaign and reign >
Edit: Schoolboy error....Blair supported Social-ism. Its amazing the difference a hyphen can make
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27 January 2015, 12:54 PM
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http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews...mu?ocid=TSHDHP
I think there’s some progress.
David Cameron has said he will only take part in televised election debates if broadcasters invite Northern Ireland to the table.
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