...seamus...

Any advice is gratefully received as i'm looking to upgrade the brakes on my 03 wrx!

I'm finding the standard set-up a bit "woolly" so what are my options and costs involved - at the same time I want to space out the wheels with spacers??

Thanks,

J...

Godspeed Brakes

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Hi
First thing would be to check your front calipers are working properly with no sticky pistons , its a very common thing for this to happen on the Subaru 4 pot calipers.
If you have problems with them , we can supply you a service kit to replace the pistons and seals , we can also supply you reconditioned calipers on an exchange basis.

It depends on how far you want to go with it , you can start off by fitting grooved standard sized discs and a better compound pad , with a pad suitable to your driving style , it can make the braking much better , there are plenty of different pads available from mild to wild , we can supply you discs and pads both front and rear.

We have disc and pad deals starting at £89.50
https://www.scoobynet.com/trader-ann...s-89-50-a.html

Up from there would be the 335mm kit we make consisting of 335mm x 32mm grooved 2 piece discs and bells , mounting bracket and calipers fitting kit , and larger than standard pads , this kit uses your standard 4 pot calipers , and will still fit under your standard 17" wheels.
This kit makes a huge increase in braking power over the standard sized discs , and for the money , nothing comes close , this kit we sell for £550

http://66.7.200.85/~godspeed/product.php?id_product=121

Up from here then your looking at fitting larger discs with uprated calipers such as AP 4 and 6 pots , complete 330mm kits with AP 4 pots start at £1100

Changing the fluid and hoses would give you a better pedal feel as well , which we can also supply.

If you want to have a chat and run through your options please ring me on 01656 723060

Cheers Ian

...seamus...

brilliant - where are you based??

Godspeed Brakes

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We are in South Wales , but ship parts all over the world so can courier any items to you next day
Cheers Ian

Midlife......

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if they are working properly the subaru 4 pot calipers are really quite good

I'd change the disks / pads and get braided hoses with a good fluid.

Shaun

Aztec Performance Ltd

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Braided lines and decent pads can make all the difference.

Can supply discs, pads, braided lines and spacers.

Feel free to give us a call:

alcazar

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Go with Godspeed, mate.

l1verp00l

Bob at Aztec performance is the man for brakes

alcazar

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But BOB isn't AT Aztec any more, allegedly.
Go with Godspeed.

Aztec Performance Ltd

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Still here, now and then just for your pleasure Jeff

Cheers,

BOB!

alcazar

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In THAT case DEFINITELY go with Godspeed!

Aztec Performance Ltd

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Comic

alcazar

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No, I was being serious.

Aztec Performance Ltd

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Me too!

Midlife......

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To avoid the above there's always Alyn at www.asperformance.com who is good on the phone for a chat about brake upgrades and usually gets stuff to you the next day..

Shaun

alcazar

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Ah yes, Alyn is good too.

I've always gone to Ian, so I tend to forget others. Ian gives free advice too.

stockcar

as does Alyn and has done for far more years than i care to remember..........

alyn

Gigsy

I concur - fitted some rebuilt calipers to mine along with some Yellow Stuff pads and they worked faultlessly all day at a recent trackday.... very impressive especially compared to the old ones!

Pedal could still use a bit more feel... brake stopper and hoses should cure that though.

Aztec Performance Ltd

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Are people starting to charge for advise nowadays?

alcazar

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Tsk

But there are those who sell stuff and those who give out free advice AND sell stuff.

Surely YOU know that?

When I say free advice, I DON'T just mean in an attempt to get another sale, I mean actually HELPING people, you know, like Alyn and Ian do.......?

Aztec Performance Ltd

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I think you need to take your blinkers off Jeff

bustaMOVEs

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Aztec Performance Ltd

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alcazar

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I specified advice, not socialising.......

You know advice? telling someone how to do something for themselves? Explaining stuff without trying to sell them stuff?

Much as what I do?

richgreenscooby1

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get some alcons ..... !

...seamus...

okay - so after lots of searching and plenty of reading I think the way to go, without spending silly money, is grooved and drilled discs with a decent pad and uprated hoses and stick with the current calipers

thanks for the advice

bustaMOVEs

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Don't get drilled disks, they can crack.
Grooved or dimpled are ok.

alcazar

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You did ALL that research and STILL think drilled discs are the way to go?

Go to the corner and put on the dunce cap.

Godspeed Brakes

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As above , drilled discs are not reliable for hard road / track use , pads today are capable of generating high temps which causes cracking around the holes , drilling through the grain structure will cause weak spots.

Grooved discs are the best way of disbursing the gases given off the pads , as doesn't weaken the disc

Cheers Ian

Aztec Performance Ltd

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Drilled and grooved discs are very effective when used with the correct pads. We have sold them for years now, and I can only ever recall one customer calling to say there had been a problem. Not bad for discs that have sold in their hundreds! This forum would be littered with complaints if indeed drilled/grooved discs cracked as much as the scare mongering would have you believe.

Thankfully high end car manufacturers ignore this nonsense that drilled discs are rubbish and still fit them to their high end cars, they have done for years and still do. We had someone over from Brembo a couple of years back and spoke about this at some length. Their discs are drilled, not cast as some people believe.

Drilled and grooved discs have advantages over both grooved only and plain discs. Each different type of disc has it's own merits though. Plain discs are the strongest. Both drilled/grooved and grooved only discs help pad gasses escape and keep the pad area swept. Both grooved only and drilled discs will cause some noise in use and won't be as strong as plain discs (as they both remove material from the disc). Dimpled discs are a good compromise for noise and strength. Just look high end track disc manufacturers such as Performance Friction. They supply their disc with the option of mini-slotted or dimpled. For disc strength alone (ignoring pad longevity etc) it would go PLAIN>DIMPLED>GROOVED>GROOVED&DRILLED/DRILLED. Of course when you throw a pad type into the mix this can change what is most suitable for you.

Contact a brake supplier that only sells grooved discs and they will obviously advise you to buy grooved discs. Contact a brake supplier that supplies a wide range of disc types and they will advise you on what best fits you and your requirements. We don't believe that "one type fits all" and are always happy to discuss a customers requirements before advising on a wide range of the available suitable pad and disc combinations.