john banks

Peugeot 406 V6 with ABS. In the dry, wet or ice when you brake really hard it doesn't judder. There is no ABS warning light illuminated. The manual says sometimes a judder may be felt. The Peugeot newsgroups seem to be no use on the issue. I heard that many modern cars' ABS systems do not vibrate like the one on the Scooby does. Is this true?

Anyone know if a 406 ABS judders?

It brakes well enough considering it is a 406, but not in a straight line always in the ice - but neither does the Scoob.

rollerskate_01

Well

I do not know about the v6 406 but the diesel 406 definitely vibrates the pedal. And I do not miss it !!!!!!!

SPEN555

John,

Previous to my scoob I had a Peugeot 106 Gti which had ABS and it rarely was felt except in snow where it became a bit scarey trying to get it to stop. The scoob's ABS kicks in sometimes and I don't understand why. In the snow it's a case of pack myself a few pairs of kegs in the boot because it's bloody frighting. Coupled with it behaving like a sledge leads to some very hairy moments. Three times last year I nearly smashed the front end in and it was shear luck that I avoided crashing.

Hey John, maybe you could come up with a £10 electronics gizmo to turn the ABS to work the other way and give the stopping power of say AP 6 pots. Now there's a challenge for you.

Damian.

ScoobyJawa

I had a 306GTi-6 b4 the scoob and very very rarely felt the ABS unless it was really bad. That car had fantastic brakes, much much better than the standard MY99 Scoob I've got now

SPEN555

Scoobyjawa,

My pug brakes on the little 106GTi were fantastic in comparison to my MY00 UK spec scoob.

Why do we need to spend ~£1500 to get up to be anything decent?

Damian.

john banks

£50 on braided lines and DOT5.1 makes a massive difference. £250 on discs and pads and you have fantastic brakes IMHO. Stops my car anyway - you need a lot less pedal travel now, the initial bite is superb and you can easily lock up the wheels in the dry compared with before - which suggests the brakes are working well. But before you lock up you wipe off a huge amount with the initial bite. Scooby brakes are a dozen times better than those on our 406 - that is on a 3.0 V6 which is supposed to cost £23k new.

Trying a BMW 330i recently I thought the brakes were better than MY99/00, but now my brakes are tweaked they are way better.

PeterPerfect

What disks/pads are you running with John ?

john banks

Black diamond drilled and Mintex 1155 on the Scoob. Factory crap on the Pug.

NBW

I had a 306 GTi-6 before the Scoob, and yes, there was a pronounced judder through the pedal when the ABS kicked in.

In comparison, the Scoob's ABS seems to buzz - i.e. seems to pulsate at a higher frequency.

Cheers
Tim