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Old 26 June 2001, 10:30 PM
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Well,

I've finally got myself some 4 pots off a P1, including the OE pads, now I'm after some discs for the setup. I'll be installing braided hoses, and may go for the brake cylinder support bracket as well.

Some opinions on which disc package to go for would be appreciated. The car probably wont be used on track, only road, but I do tend to be hard on brakes, and performance is an issue.

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Old 26 June 2001, 11:12 PM
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Try TSL
Old 27 June 2001, 12:54 AM
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Ian,

Scooby S are doing the Pagid Gp N+ discs, pads, braided hoses & 5.1 fluid fitted for about 370 +VAT.

What would you recommend?

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Old 27 June 2001, 08:59 AM
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Paul , Have a look at gereral question s and the heading new brake set up , Might be of interest to you , Cheers , Ian
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Specifically:
Old 27 June 2001, 11:14 AM
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Hi guys,

Thanks for the replies - I was considering Pagid discs, but I wasn't convinced that spending £200+ for a set of discs was the way to go. Ian at Godspeed informs me that I can get a set for around £150, and I'm seriously considering this as an option.
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We can offer you either a one piece disc either Cross drilled , Grooved or both ,Prices start at £150 a pair , Or a pair of discs and bells that are direct replacement to the original 294mm disc , These are £350 a pair , The discs and bells will take a lot more stick than the one piece discs , And when they will eventually need changing you only need the outer part as the bell is used over and over again , If your after looks aswell they look a lot better behind the wheels , Ian ,
Old 27 June 2001, 01:27 PM
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Old 27 June 2001, 02:00 PM
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SS quoted 410+vat for the kit including delivery but NOT fitting, so I don't know if prices have changed...

Sorely tempted by this when I need new discs/pads in the next few months. Hopefully it looks a cheap and effective upgrade.

Ian: in the future, what discs/pads would I need for replacements?
Old 27 June 2001, 05:18 PM
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Chiark,

Just got SS to confirm my price as correct.

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Old 27 June 2001, 05:59 PM
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The discs are our own , You will ahve to get them from us , They will be priced at £125 each . Pads will be £90 for the Mintex M1144 ones , Ian
Old 27 June 2001, 06:53 PM
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Ian,
Do you do a disc and separate bell combination to fit the Prodrive/Alcon kit on the Impreza. As you know the Prodrive supplied ones are one piece.

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Old 28 June 2001, 07:34 AM
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If you let me know what size the disc is we can let you know , I don't think it will be a problem . Ian
Old 28 June 2001, 08:21 AM
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Hi Ian,
I believe the discs are 330mm.

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Free fitting or 40 quid for delivery then???? Either that or Pete doesn't like me

I'd really like to see a comparison between these two set-ups (SS/GodSpeed), but Ian's seems quite rare at the moment. I've got a feeling it could become very popular very quickly as a quick and cheap brake upgrade if it's effective and gives better feel.

To add to the confusion, anyone used the TSL motorsport solution? That's another one on the list for the same-ish price fitted which uses a custom Ferodo DS4003 pad...

ARGH! I THINK MY HEAD MAY EXPLO
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We can supply this diameter disc , do you know how thick it is ? With the regards to comparing the 335mm discs against a 294mm disc there is no contest , The bigger disc will knock spots off the 294mm discs , You would be very hard pushed to feel a difference between our 335mm kit with standard 4 pots and a 330mm AP kit , If you drove two cars with these kits fitted you would not tell the difference , For anyone who has 18" wheels fitted we also supply a 355mm disc and bell set up , But these are too big to use with the standard four pots ! Hope this helps , Ian
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To add to the last post , If you contact ceri(cpofwales) who started the thread regarding this kit , Ask him what he thinks of them , He has been a member on here for some time and I met him recently through friends of mine as he lives in the same town as me , We fitted the brakes to his car because he is involved in track days with the SIDC , He was at Croft a couple of weeks ago and has used them for the last couple of weeks , I'm sure he is in a position now to tell you what he thinks of them and the performance they give , Many Thanks , Ian , ps , Why not organise a shoot out between my kit and anything else on offer , Any takers ?
Old 28 June 2001, 10:03 AM
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Good stuff Ian, I'll try your kit next month then

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(the one that keeps mailing you inane questions, like how to fit 'em)
Old 29 June 2001, 04:06 PM
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:<HR>Originally posted by ian_sadler:
<B>Chiark,

Just got SS to confirm my price as correct.

Ian [/quote]


Actually, you are both right

The 2 pot set up is 300+vat and the 4 pot set up is 400+vat.

The kits are discs and pads for the front, 4 Goodridge TUV spec lines and Silkolene Pro Race brake fluid.

We charge 70+vat to fit a kit.

details at
Old 29 June 2001, 06:18 PM
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Will somebody take Ian Godney up on his offer? I think it's time his kit was given a chance to prove itself. He's had a rough ride on here before when threads got off on the wrong foot. He's making bold claims, but also firm assurances.

It sounds pretty good to me, and good value. The main difference is the use of alloy mounting bells. This is a key feature only shared with APR kits that I know of. It's a major safeguard against warping, and obviously saves a lot of weight.

Furthermore, if you check out the Scoobysport link on the post above from Pete Croney (thanks Pete ) another advantage of alloy bells is that they protect the bearings from overheating.

Richard.
Old 29 June 2001, 10:01 PM
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Hoppy
I'm doing just that! I spoke to ian today, I should have the replacement discs in about a week or so, I'll let you know how they are!
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Old 30 June 2001, 03:38 PM
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Ron, good on yer! Look forward to hearing how you get on, especially if you manage to get some track miles. Are you coming up to Bedford for the Aug 10th Speed & Feed? If they can handle that, then they can handle anything!

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