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Old 23 November 2018, 02:12 PM
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Thinking of getting a set of these, wondered if anyone has used them?

I'm guessing I should go for XL?
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XL rating does mean a different sidewall construction, not a stiffer sidewall.
XL for heavier vehicles, that need higher inflation pressures.
Old 23 November 2018, 03:09 PM
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Not sure that's always the case? My Renaultsport Megane came new on XL tyres and 'normal' pressure so they aren't just for heavier cars. I do agree the Sidewall info though, most people assume a stiffer sidewall but that's not always the way
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XL stands for extra load and always did.
Old 23 November 2018, 03:16 PM
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Meaning what?
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Originally Posted by Jay kay
Not sure that's always the case? My Renaultsport Megane came new on XL tyres and 'normal' pressure so they aren't just for heavier cars. I do agree the Sidewall info though, most people assume a stiffer sidewall but that's not always the way
An XL tyre, running at a lower pressure, has a lower load rating than a non-XL tyre, at the same pressure
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In answer to OP question though, yes you should get XL or there will be unwanted sidewall movement.
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Originally Posted by Jay kay
Meaning what?
Meaning why disagree with people that have expertise in such matters i.e. 2pot.
Old 23 November 2018, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 1509joe
Meaning why disagree with people that have expertise in such matters i.e. 2pot.
So you're saying that 'experts' are never wrong? I still don't entirely agree as there are plenty of mid-sized cars and some lightweight car requiring XL tyres
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I`ve had them before, but not on a Subaru. They have soft sidewalls, which give great rain performance as contact area is increased, but they don`t aid handling at all, and wear fast
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Thanks HC. The AutoExpress review said virtually the opposite and that handling and agility was sharper than any of the competition could dream of. Also personal opinion I guess but I think they should be pretty good
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I used them on a Skoda superb 4x4 so handling was always going to be **** poor, but the Falkens that replaced them feel just as good; Probably not the same on an Impreza though. They were xl, and the car ate them. I take xl to be primarily that, for heavier loads, roof boxes, towing, and will be a bit stiffer, but that`s no substitute for stiff sidewalls. European premium tyres get their high ratings largely because of the flex and comfort of the construction, I reckon.
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Originally Posted by matt-c
In answer to OP question though, yes you should get XL or there will be unwanted sidewall movement.
Load rating is independent of sidewall stiffness.
Run-flats have a stiffened sidewall and heavy duty sidewall construction - would you use run-flats?

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Originally Posted by Jay kay
So you're saying that 'experts' are never wrong? I still don't entirely agree as there are plenty of mid-sized cars and some lightweight car requiring XL tyres
The engineers will have a specified the tyre load index - 83, 88, 91 etc
What tyre that manufacturer then fitted to the car would be:
The minimum specified load index + what they could get a the best price + what gave the defined performance parameters + what was available.
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